In one of the more interesting broadcasts, A Conversation w/ Joshua T Berglan & Marc Nelson discusses the myths of health and health, including BMR while addressing the role of hormones, muscle mass, science, our vertebrae, diet, and even yoga play in us becoming the physical beings we were created to be.

As a lead scientific researcher at Fellow One Research, Marc has pioneered Body Type Science (The Four Body Types) since 2003 including creating the only Online Worldwide Science-Based Health Community Website which offers the Scientific Body Type Quiz and Scientific Weight Loss Programs (Basic and Advanced). His website offers free public access to the scientific health knowledge-base & research data, including science-based diet, exercise, lifestyle, metabolism, BMR, Body Mass Index (BMI), fat, skinny fat (normal weight obesity, cellulite, thin fat, saggy skin, loose skin, crepey skin), obesity, vertebrae & muscles/muscle mass development, and genetics/DNA information. They are the ONLY scientific body types in existence. All other body types are unscientific. There is a direct scientific correlation between body type, skinny fat, excess fat, being overweight, and obesity. His mission is to help wrangle and overcome the global health crisis including the obesity epidemic.

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Scientific Body Type Quiz

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Scientific Weight Loss Diary (Advanced)

https://www.fellowone.com/product/fellow-one-research-the-four-body-type-scientific-weight-loss-program-advanced-diary-diet-exercise-lifestyle/

 

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Joshua T Berglan, aka The World’s Mayor, is a voice for the voiceless and is driven to elevate the passion, purpose, and mission of those he serves. Joshua is the Chairman of the Live Mana Worldwide Foundation & Live Mana Network, Shock-Jock Evangelist, International #1 Best Selling Author for the Book “The Devil Inside Me“, a Producer, and Filmmaker. Joshua is an expert in the future of media and loves supporting others in helping make their dreams come true.

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Joshua T Berglan
What’s up everybody my name is Joshua T Berglan and welcome to a conversation with Joshua T Berglund, which you just saw is a new show that I’m doing called

up was called one Mic, my goodness that you gotta love that spoken word with Joshua T Berglan. And the difference is, between this show and this one, the new show is that this is just me spot speaking. Gosh, I can’t talk today. Speaking of speaking.

You know, one of my favorite things in the world to do is to elevate others. It’s what we do with our nonprofit media organization. And it’s what we do with this network. I mean, we are called the Digital Noah’s Ark for a reason. And I won’t spend a lot of time on that right now. But I love to elevate other voices. I love to elevate interesting people, I think the people that are doing using their gifts to be a blessing to others. And I love interviewing those, those people. And our our guest today is not a subject that I normally spend a lot of time with. I’ve done interviews like this before. But this, to me is one of the more important interviews I’ve done, because it’s talking about health. And right now, health, our health is always important. It made our body as a temple for crying out loud. But I think that we’ve neglected our health and with some of the decisions that we’ve made, and I’m not gonna get into that right now. But the subject of health matters. So I’m excited about having our guest on. But with this new show that I’m doing, you’re it’s basically why you’ll learn why they call me a shock jock evangelist. I’m not a bible thumper by any means, but I love the Bible. I have my issues with the Bible, but I love the Bible. As you know, I’m a man of faith. But that said, I don’t necessarily fit into the box that most Christians want me to fit into. And I will never apologize for not. We support the LGBT community here. We don’t support the agenda. In fact, we don’t really support any agenda, other than being what God created you to be. We on this network, we will have Muslims will have Buddhist will have Jewish people will have all people from all walks of life. Why? How could I do that as a lover of Jesus Christ, because, well, I honor the one commandment that he said to honor the most. And that is to love your neighbor, and to love Him. And you know what, I love everybody. I find myself in this really big battle right now. Because there’s a lot of people I want to punch in the throat. The really, I’m sick of people lying. I’m sick of people manipulating. And even in the health field. That health field is one of the most

you talk about psyops you talk about conspiracy. You talk about bullcrap and talk about deceptive, the health industry is full of it. The four food groups is a prime example. It’s been the biggest lot one of the biggest lies we’ve ever been told. So anyway, the point is that I’m using that show is to share what God has put on my heart. That’s really about it. So thank you for watching that. Thank you for being here. Thank you for supporting the live mana network. Ever since we got booted from the last two networks. We have grown. We’ve doubled our audience every single day. Thank you for that. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, it means the world thank you for downloading our app. In fact, you can go to that barcode that’s right there in the corner. You can scan that and find links to everything that we do. You can find links to all of our apps, you can find links to our nonprofit media organization. It’s all right there on that link. Really, really simple. Of course, just go to live mana.org Thank you for being here. So I’m really excited about our guests because you know when they talk about health, you know, you hear about all the different fad diets you hear about gluten free you hear about paleo or you hear about what’s my wife do that she loves so much keto. Yeah, keto. Does that and I don’t know if you’re like me or not, but I will try new things because I like to eat it straight up. My body weight fluctuates. I mean, you would almost think that I was still a meth addict the way that my my my body fluctuates. I can gained 60 pounds without taking a breath it seems and then I can lose another 60 just as easy, I can’t explain it, but I just yo yo. And maybe it’s because I try different things all the time. I don’t know, you know, but nothing’s ever really worked for me long term, because of frickin like to eat like doughnuts Not gonna lie, but also like cheeseburgers, but I also can eat salmon and fish and I can eat greens and veggies. Frankly, I just like to eat. And, and I hate the fact that I fluctuate with weight, I do the same workouts, I do all the same things. And frankly, one of the biggest insecurities I have is my waistline, because it changes all the time. And I haven’t really gotten to understand it. But for me, being in I mentioned this earlier, as my body is a temple, I want my mind right, I’ve spent so much time you know, making my mind strong, and my heart strong and you know, getting away from the evil life that I used to live in. So I’ve put all that energy into getting spiritually ready putting my my armor on and just being the man that called me to be but where I fall short is my diet. And maybe our guest today Mr. Mark Nelson from fellow one who is an expert in the four body types and a lot more I mean this the if you go to fellow one, it’s f e l l o w almost wanted to say zero, fellow one, f e l l o w o n e.com If you go to this website, you will see that they are in it. I mean, it is one of I it’s way over my head, or at least in the brief look that I had at it but their extensive and truly, truly understanding the different body types so that you know they’re there, whether they call them clients or patients are whatever that they the advice that they’re giving you the instruction that they’re giving you a spot on for your body type. Because let’s face it, we’re all different. There’s a reason why gluten free doesn’t work for everybody or keto doesn’t work for everybody. There’s a reason why vegetarian doesn’t work for everybody. It’s because we have different body types. But the thing is, I’m probably simplifying this way too much and this is why we bring experts on. So you guys are in for a treat. Mr. Mark Nelson will be introduced as soon as we get back from this message.

You want them rolling out the red carpet, the red carpet, red carpet. You want them rolling out the red carpet, red carpet, red carpet. You want to find a thing to diamond rings to SignUpGenius all minor things in the widest game but at what cost to relax Drain Cleaning will mop with the crown of thorns or spill more my mind flooded because I thought it was where I started able to get to the top and park it up and the harlot battery recharged and there reached my target as the iList in Washington some liquid from my arteries will spill on soda carpet. Everybody wants BAM nobody wants to work for it damn don’t want to see you know her Deray welcome back to a conversation with Joshua T Berglund. I am Joshua T Bergland. Thank you for being here on the live mana network. And as I said, you can find all of our apps and information by skimming that barcode right there. Thank you in advance for your support. Ladies and gentlemen, it’s an absolute honor for me to introduce to you. The chief is the chief researcher chief clinician, just the chief badass ladies and gentlemen, Mark Nelson. Hello, sir. How are you? Oh, well, how are you doing? I’m good. Thank you so much for being here. I’m really really excited to have you on and learn by I can probably be stopped being a fat ass and so I’m grateful for you’re here. But before we get into All the fun. What are you grateful for today and why?

Marc Nelson
My health. And I think that you spoke clearly about it in the intro. Without our health, we don’t have anything. It’s really the only thing that we truly own and maintaining it is vital to a happy life. So health.

Joshua T Berglan
That’s good. So to be grateful for health, I think to be truly grateful for health, even with what you just said, I think that we have to go through a period in our life that maybe we weren’t so healthy, especially to be able to have a level of appreciation for health. The way you do now was, where did you come out of the womb healthy and just ready to do things the right way? Or did you deal with some, you know, health issues growing up.

Marc Nelson
According to mainstream scientists and medical doctors, I was a normal child. However, when I was about eight, and I was out on the soccer field playing shirts off soccer, I began to notice that my body was very different than most of my peers. And when we think about the human body, we think about it in terms of the standard scientific human body anatomy, look by type one that you find in any scientific anatomy book. And when we look at that image, it is a fully developed image with all of the muscle and muscle mass, etc. Yet, when I looked at my body, and compare it to my peers, I didn’t have all that muscle, I was missing muscle mass all over my body and in place that it was fat, and I was a skinny child. I was scrawny, skinny. And so it wasn’t that I was overweight or obese, I just had fat in place of where there should be muscle and muscle mass. When we go into these standard physicals with the doctor and they would run me through all their tests and do the BMI tests. And I would come in, in my safe BMI weight range. And so the doctor would say, Oh, he’s totally normal. Yet, when I would bring up the question as to why I have fat, and at the time, there was no term for it. So it was just fat. But when you’re skinny, you’re not fat. So how can you be skinny and fat, the real term for it now that is becoming more accepted in both the scientific and medical communities is skinny fat. And there are types of skinny fat which are cellulite, thin, fat, loose skin, saggy skin, crepey, skin, and normal weight, obesity. And so when I would ask the doctor about why I had all this fat, skinny fat in place of muscle and muscle mass, they would just brush it off as Oh, it’s just normal. Don’t worry about it, you’re within your safety and my weight rain, so don’t worry about it. But it was a huge concern. Because muscle plays a vital role in your day to day functioning. Whether you are a sports person, if you don’t have muscle, then you can’t really play sports well, because that’s what an athlete really is. They’re just muscle. And, and of course there’s talent and skill and, and, and such. But if you don’t have muscle, then you can’t really play the sport. And so I moved from soccer to tennis, but I couldn’t hold the racket with one hand, I had to hold it with two hands with both the forehand and the backhand, because they didn’t have the muscle. So yes, I was technically normal out of the womb. But as I grew, and I got to my teens and to my 20s and puberty hit, and I grew more and more fat. When I was lacking muscle, it was obvious to me that I was not normal. But it was something seriously wrong. And obesity is common in our family, especially on my father’s side of the family. Yet because everything is based on the BMI. No one really has questioned it until we started our our research. So Is that making sense?

Joshua T Berglan
Oh, that makes a lot of sense. The first person that comes to mind is Steph Curry for the place for the Warriors, the basketball player because when he was growing up, you know, he was super, super skinny. I can’t say he was skinny fat, but he didn’t have any muscle on him. And you know, when he was playing basketball, they never thought he would make it and the way he had to shoot was basically, I mean, it was just it looked like it was going to kill him when he was trying to shoot the basketball. And now he’s the greatest three point shooter of all time, he must have figured out as body in what to do. So as you’re figuring out this part about yourself, like when did the light bulb go off? Something has to change and what was your journey? Like trying to discover what basically what is it that you needed to do to become who you are today?

Marc Nelson
So I guess technically the light bulb went off when I was around age 10 and I first truly noticed it and asked my mother Why I had all this fat all over my body even though I was skinny. And because my father is in obese man, it was normal. So she didn’t really have an answer. And so years passed. And when I got to college, I really got into weightlifting. Because I had done a lot of cardio previous and some way lifting. But I really wanted to add muscle. So it was really in college, the last few years of college, especially, where I started to mirror some of my weightlifting friends who were, who were all muscle, they would go into the gym, and they would lift weights, and they would put on muscle very easily. And they were it may look just like the standard scientific human body anatomy of a biotype one with all the muscles fully developed. And no matter what I did, I follow their same diet, I get all their supplements, I went down to the gym with him and I did sets with him to get all the same exercises, no matter what I did. putting on muscle was nearly impossible. I still had skinny fat all over my body. And so that I guess was really when the light bulb went off, and I was just fed up. And I just didn’t understand and it affected so many things I was prone to being bullied because I was so small and scrawny and weak. And it just it really affected everything in my life. And so that’s really when I set off on my journey was right at the end of college. And I’ve been doing it ever since. And I opened up the the nonprofit in 2003. And really began the research after I’d gotten the experience that I needed to understand how to do all that.

Joshua T Berglan
So fellow fellow Warren is a nonprofit.

Marc Nelson
That’s right. It’s actually selling one research and the parent company is fellowship of one.

Joshua T Berglan
Okay. I like that name. A lot. Yeah. What so when your research started, what was the thing that you discovered about yourself? That wasn’t right, because if you’re, and look, I’m a supplement junkie is so much to the point, I remember stealing my parents Juice Plus vitamins as a kid. And, and I and we always took vitamins and you know, not the Flintstone time my parents, like they invested in quality supplements. So as I grew up, I was always interested in it. And then I started like a knucklehead. I really damaged my body. Because in high school, and I’m not blaming Mark McGwire and all those guys, but when I found out that what I thought they were taking Andrew steam dye on, which was, you know, the precursor for steroids or whatever, when they were taking the real thing. But my young dumb brain was like, oh, I want some of that, too. So I start taking it, then I find out oh, they’re taking real steroids. So I started taking steroids really young. And then on top of that became because that was an adrenaline junkie, and you know, started coke and meth pretty early in my in my in my younger days and went on for a long time. But then the pre workouts and the fat burning pills and all that stuff. Like I started at 13 Many things, just abusing all that stuff, to the point that it’s dramatically affected my body now, but I know what you mean by saying I’m doing the same workouts as the guys next to me, I’m doing the same supplements, I’m doing everything they’re doing because I want to look like that. And I wasn’t getting anywhere near so for you. What did you discover why you doing the same thing the people next to you are doing, why it wasn’t working for you.

Marc Nelson
So with my theory in hand, that I was lacking muscle and muscle mass all over my body. And it wasn’t really a theory, it was just a fact. But understanding that fact in why was really the next phase in the research. And of course, the human body boils down to genetics and DNA. And so it was just understanding the structure of the human body. So I came at it from a logical point of view. And just so that your listeners fully understand my point of view and the point of view of our organization, we are actually a spiritual science organization, which is a very rare thing in the world right now. We very much believe in spirits in science, that they go hand in hand and that the world will become a better place until both those things are respected as equals.

Joshua T Berglan
Or the Spirit. Holy Spirit or spirit.

Marc Nelson
I wouldn’t really say that there’s a difference there. I would say that they’re at least they are this the same thing. Yeah, but that’s my point of view.

Joshua T Berglan
But well it really quick. So I just to clarify. So this This is something as a believer as a follower of Jesus and someone who has been baptized by fire and has the Holy Spirit and all that stuff. I, one of the things that I always have really battled with is what you just brought up. And that is, the Spirit inside of me is I had the same gifts that I have now. I just was using them for evil for a long time. And yet, when I accepted Jesus and I went down that road, my whole life did change. But the Spirit and the gifts that I have hasn’t changed. And so I’ve always like wrestled with that going, is there a difference? Because it kind of seems like the same thing, except I’m feeding my spirit, a bunch of evil stuff. And now I feed it better stuff and good stuff. And that’s, and so therefore I’m getting different results. So I was just asking for clarifying, because I just wanted to know.

Marc Nelson
So I would answer that by saying that there’s really nothing that I am not. I am evil, and I’m good. And it’s the choice that I make to be what I am. I believe in the soul, that my soul is all of that. And that is the choices in my life. And I think that it’s about being honest. And I, I genuinely appreciate all of your honesty, because we are human beings, we are fallible, we make choices, and some of them are good, and some of them are bad. And it’s coming to terms with those choices and just accepting and, and bring your life back to a state of balance and doing good in the world. So is that? Is that okay?

Joshua T Berglan
Yeah. Listen, if you said that you worship the devil, you could still be on the show. As I was saying, In the beginning, I want an open forum, I want open conversation, and I stand by this one statement, how, how great is your faith, if it can’t be challenged, if you can’t handle someone’s different point of view or a different philosophy, your faith is pretty weak, because you should be able to hear it and have an open mind to what other people are saying. Because the fact is, I believe and we can carry on with the interview after this. I believe that we’ve been lied to about pretty much everything since we were born. Like nothing is ever really been truly honest. And I’m not blaming anybody because so much of the information was passed on to our parents and grandparents and, and they thought that they were right. And then as we get older, we learned that a lot of that was bullcrap. Like health. So anyway, I appreciate you sharing all that very much.

Marc Nelson
And I appreciate that last comment, because I think that that would be another conversation for the next time I come on your show, because that is a very interesting conversation. That is there’s a lot of truth to what you just said. But back to your question about how I came about the the actual research, I, I was looking at my body in understanding it and why no matter what diet, exercise or lifestyle I did, I never looked like the standard scientific human by analogy. But by type one and coming from a scientific point of view, I believe in standards, I believe that we have to have standards because we have to have something to hold ourselves to. And so when I would look at the by the body mass index and the BMR, which are the other two biotite science standards, according to mainstream science and medical doctors, they all have it was was greatly flawed, but no one wanted to hear it the the standard scientific human body only book is flawed because it’s a fact that any part of the human body can be genetically under developed to whatever the degree, it’s a fact that the body mass index is flawed because skinny fat is very real. It’s possible to be normal weight obese, it is a medically and scientifically accepted term. Now you can go to the Mayo clinic site and learn all about normal weight, obesity. Another reason why the BMI is inaccurate is because it’s possible to have excess muscle on your body that would put you into the overweight or obese columns of your BMI weight scale and you are most certainly not overweight or obese, sort of like the rock that nude is all muscle. If you did his BMI calculation, it’s most probably that he is in the obese in the overweight or obese columns when he is not overweight or obese. In terms of the basal metabolic rate that is inaccurate. So the basal metabolic rate is your BMR it’s the number of calories daily that your body requires to function to do its basic survival. The minimum number of cow Lose daily, it is inaccurate because skinny fat only burns two to three calories per day fat or skinny fat only burns two to three calories per day, whereas muscle mass burns six calories per day. So if you have skinny fat genetically, if you have skinny fat on your body in place of muscle and muscle mass, your body is burning less calories daily, but your but your BMR is not calculating that and so you are likely eating too many calories daily. So those are the three mainstream science and medical doctor standards that are not accurate. And when I looked at those, sorry,

Joshua T Berglan
no, I’m just laughing because it’s again, that is what is beaten into our heads that we need to follow over and over and over again.

Marc Nelson
It is and it’s it’s why we don’t we don’t push a specific diet for all the reasons that you said in the intro the show, there are diets that work for different body types, we have a whole list of diets up on our website along with a whole list of different exercises. Because we believe that we will actually look at it more from a scientific point of view that it’s really just a fact that human bodies are different, and that you can’t just shove one diet or one exercise on on on everyone and say that it will work for everyone. So we do think that the BlueZone Mediterranean diet is likely the best diet because it’s backed by a lot of science, there are five blue zones across the planet where people live well into their hundreds with no allopathic medicine, they aren’t popping pills they aren’t. They’re just living normal daily lives into their hundreds healthy. And so that’s why we think that the BlueZone Mediterranean diet is the best diet. But again, we’re not necessarily pushing that diet, we believe that there are different diets and lifestyle choices and exercises for different people. So

Joshua T Berglan
that diet is really really good for your heart. Correct.

Marc Nelson
It’s really good in so many ways, and it’s not. And you can still eat meat. It’s just a lot less. It’s a vegetarian focused diet. But and there’s no refined foods, no fast, processed or fast or junk foods. Maybe once in a blue mood, if it’s the holidays, and you want to eat a doughnut or whatever. But it’s it is focused on a heavily vegetarian diet. But it still allows everything else so that you don’t feel like you’re missing out on life. It’s just moderation. Yeah, so but conflict. Say again, I’m sorry.

Joshua T Berglan
I just said what a concept moderation, right? Totally. Yes. I think most of the people that I the the demographic is very diverse, that watch and listen to this program. But I will tell you that moderation is one thing that we do not like there’s a lot of former addicts that watch this show and current addicts. So moderation is not a word that we’re very comfortable with. So anyway.

Marc Nelson
So in terms of the science as we as we learn what the mainstream science and medical doctors scientific standards were, and we understood why they were inaccurate, we began to build our own standards. So if we understand the human body and how its structured, we understand that it’s built on genetics and DNA. And again, that genetics and DNA can be under developed to whatever degree any part of the human body. So if we look at the spine, and the vertebrae in the spine, every vertebra houses a specific set of muscles. And if any of those muscles are under developed in any way, it will affect your posture. And as I’ve already stated, if you have skinny fat in place of muscle, and muscle mass that you’re already burning less calories, all of that affects your body type. So logically, we broke down by types in terms of the number of vertebrae in your back and there are technically 33 vertebrae but if you break it down in terms of the bones in relation to the vertebrae, there are 26 there are seven cervical 12 thoracic, five lumbar one sacrum and one coccyx. So we broke it down into a bio type one, which has zero under developed vertebrae. A biotech two has one to eight under developed vertebrae, a bio type three nine to 17, and a bio type four has 18 to 26. And once you can look at it from that point of view, we have really good images up on our website that show and compare the different body types. And you can see that with a biotype one We have hundreds of real life scientific biotype quizzes up on the site now. And our bio type ones, we have plenty of them. And they look just like a standard scientific human by anatomy book by type one, they have all of the muscle and muscle mass fully developed, they look just like the buyer type twos, not so much, almost in some of them, you could argue, yeah, they actually do. But not so much. But I type three even more. So they do not look like the standard and the buyer type four, they just are lacking muscle over most of their body and I was born in a biotech for. So that’s how we using the logic and the reasoning and the science. That’s how we broke down body type. So that so that we could understand it. And so I guess I was all sort of pause there and ask, Is that making sense? And then I’ve got more to say about that?

Joshua T Berglan
Well, it’s making about as much sense as hearing it for the first time can. But I, here’s what I appreciate about it is that it’s inspired me to want to know more, and to look into it more, which is always a good thing. Because I haven’t heard this way of thinking and, frankly, in anyone I’ve ever spoken to, you know, people have their way of thinking, this kind of pulls back. What’s the way I guess, the viewpoint, it’s pulling me back to kind of see of a bigger picture, and to see some more underlying things that could be at hand. I’m curious, though, how, how much of what you’re talking about with the four body types? Is do hormones have any factor into disrupting those body types? Or does it have any play at all? Or is it any relate? Is there any relation at all, I guess, is what I’m trying to say?

Marc Nelson
Yes, hormones most certainly play a factor in weight loss and weight gain and the development of the human body. And that’s just a fact. But if we look at the hormone biotypes because there are hormonal biotypes out there, what is lacking what is deficient with the hormone biotypes is one any real science to to back them up. We know that hormones affect the human body that’s not in debate. But why hormones would affect your body type is a whole nother conversation. Because if hormones, so actually, when we come at it from this point of view, we have our hundreds of biotype quizzes up on the site right now, we have plenty of people who are by type ones who claim that they have a hormone deficiency has been diagnosed by their by their doctor, but there’s still a buyer type one. Whereas we also have by type quit quiz two, three and for biotypes, where they also have hormone issues. And and they are lacking muscle mass on their body. So that begs the question. If hormones are the reason why biotypes are an issue, then why would we have biotype ones who have hormone issues, but don’t have it, but they’re biotype looks like the standard. Whereas we have other biotypes who don’t, it really boils down to the structure of the human body. And in again, if you go in and look at the quizzes that we have up on our site, you can see clearly from all of the quizzes where there is structural lack of development, lack of muscle mass on the body. So that begs the question, what hormones eat or dissolve muscle or muscle mass, especially with our younger quiz participants, because that just doesn’t make any sense. And there is no science that says that there are home that that there are hormones that somehow magically erase or dissolve or get rid of muscle and muscle mass for whatever reason that science just doesn’t exist. And there is no evidence for that, too. We have plenty of people who talk about how they lost weight and they think that when they lost weight that they lost muscle mass. But again, there is no science whatsoever. There’s zero science that says that when you lose weight that your body eats muscle, or less all that’s the only reason that the body would eat or consume muscle mass is because you are starving yourself. And that is not healthy weight loss if you are starving your body to lose weight and it’s not healthy weight loss is not how you lose weight.

Joshua T Berglan
Okay, well it really quick because there’s a lot of people that are really into intermittent fasting. It the different types of fasting, there’s intermittent fasting is there’s two primary ways the 16 Eight and what is the Well, and then the 18 Six, I think is the two. But but then there’s other people that will fast like every other day. I mean, there’s lots of fasting programs, is that considered starving.

Marc Nelson
So it would be relative to your BMR. So in terms of safe scientific weight loss, the the current research shows that a 500 calorie daily deficit is safe. So if you’re 500 calories under your basal metabolic rate, then you’re fine. In the short term, if you’re doing that, in the end, the long term that is not safe, but short term weight loss, is that really what weight loss it you are losing the weight, and then you are choosing a diet, exercise and lifestyle to keep that weight off in the long run. The problem is, is that once folks do lose that weight, because they don’t understand their body type, if they are a biotech chain three or four, and they are relying on their BMR, once they lose the weight to keep the weight off, as already stated, their BMR is likely not accurate, because it doesn’t take into account skinny fat. And if you have not taking into account skinny fat in terms of your, your BMR. And like the daily, you’re still eating too many calories, which means that you’re going to put on weight again, because you’re eating too many calories, even though you’re following the science as it currently says. So we have an adjusted basal metabolic rate up on our site for biotype, two, three, and four. So you can get a better sense of relative to how much skinny fat you have on your body. Because again, one pound of muscle burns six calories daily, but one pound of fat or skinny fat only burns to three calories daily, you can use that adjusted BMR so that you can better understand how many calories your body needs in terms of skinny fat on it so that you aren’t overeating, daily calories so that you can help keep that weight off in the long run. So we are we think that the fasting in general, when done safely is totally fine, it’s safe. But again, so long as you are at a 500 calorie deficit per day, if you are losing weight in the process of losing weight, and then once you’ve lost the actual weight, then it you should really pull that up 500 calories a lot. So I wouldn’t say keeping it at 500. But if you’re doing the fasting and you’re only doing three meals per day, then it could be hard to get all your calories. Just be careful. Yeah, and I will say to that what the scientific research really shows is that fasting is really about giving the body a period of time of rest in between eating. So if you if your last meal is at 8pm, then 12 hours until 8am is really fasting, right, it’s why it’s called break fast. Because you’re breaking the fast overnight where you’re you are giving your body time to rest and not have to do anything. And overnight sleeping is really where the body heals itself. So fasting is really best when you do it overnight. And you look at doing your last meal again probably around 8pm But it’s really about your sleep cycles. If you’re a night owl which is totally fine then maybe you eat later in the evening but you don’t eat until later in the morning. It’s really understanding your specific body and body type in making those diet exercise and lifestyle and lifestyle choices

Joshua T Berglan
accordingly. That makes a lot of sense that’s really would be I tend to because I keep weird hours and being up late or even though I want to go to bed early I can’t possibly fall asleep till much later. So when I happens I’m getting I’m eating right before I go to bed basically which I know is not good. But then I tried to not eat till afternoon like I haven’t eaten yet today. It’s two o’clock here. You know, I’m trying I’m trying to do better about it and be disciplined. But the problem is I get bored or confused or get hungry or get munchies or whatever and then I just whatever program I’m on I just throw it away immediately. And it’s it’s I really but it’s the fact is is that I have not figured out really a what my body type really is what my body really needs. I know that I deal with massive inflammation because of having HIV, which is a it’s really the medication that does the causes the inflammation. So I should change my foods with that alone. I use your way over. I used to weigh 300 pounds, but I lost the weight of a cocaine made me fat how that that’s a long story. But I got the 300 pounds That’s, and so I quit sugar quit doing all of that quit, carbs quit. And I lost all the weight for a good amount of time got down to 205. But I’ve been hovering between 230 and 250. When I really want to be about 210

Marc Nelson
and a half, huh? What is your height?

Joshua T Berglan
I’m six, two.

Marc Nelson
So you’re tall. So thank you. So why now? Sorry, no, go ahead.

Joshua T Berglan
Oh, no, I’m really done. I was just saying like, I, I would like to get to 210. But I’ve kind of gotten to this place where now I swing back and forth from this 20 pound. There, if that’s that’s the routine I’m in now as yo yo in 20 pounds, and I can’t figure out why. And I’ll will free I’ll do no sugar. I’ll try all that. But it doesn’t last,

Marc Nelson
where do you have a tendency to put fat weight on your body? It’s my stomach, in your stomach so that nowhere else but my stomach. And so it is it is it from the upper stomach to the to the lower stomach, just the mid stomach, the lower stomach, which part of your stomach isn’t the whole thing.

Joshua T Berglan
It’s the bottom and the

Marc Nelson
top. So it sounds like you’re probably lacking muscle mass relative to at least your lumbar vertebrae. And that would be so one of the things that I would say will help with that would be yoga, because yoga helps you get in touch with your spine. And during yoga, the the power of yoga when it’s done right is it’s really using gravity against the body. And it’s really isometric, excuse me, isometrics. And when you can hold the pose, and you can build that actual muscle relative to your to your vertebrae, it’s helping build that muscle. And whereas if you are just going in and doing weightlifting, and you’re trying to be machines and trying to build muscle in that area of your body, the downside of doing repetition exercises, like machines, or even just pumping iron is as soon as you stop doing those repetition exercises, that muscle will go away. Because that’s just how the human body works. However, if you are using gravity in relation to your spine, like with yoga, and you’re doing yoga, right, you can actually build that muscle and work on your spine and work on your posture. And if you can translate that to standing up and walking, you can then maintain that muscle for the rest of your life. Because what’s really maintaining the muscle on your body every day is the gravity pushing down on your body. And so that’s really how to properly build muscles to get to know your spine and vertebrae, build the muscle relative to them which yoga can help with we are working on cutting edge exercises right now, that will help do that as well. Not really liberty to share much more of that because there’s really no way for me to safely talk about that. But there are ways that you can build muscle relative to those to those vertebrae and maintain it without having to go to the to the gym always. And I love lifting weights and I’m not knocking going to the to the gym. I’m simply reminding folks that the downfall of doing repetition exercises like weightlifting is as soon as you stop doing it, then all that muscle goes away, eventually.

Joshua T Berglan
Okay, you’re onto something. And that is a confirmation for me. I practice yoga six days a week and, and I loved it. I mean, there was days I’d go twice. I just it was so powerful. And then I had two back surgeries. And I broke the habit, I was addicted to it. I was going all the time, I had a six pack, I had all the things and then two back surgeries. I just got out of the practice and I just you know didn’t really I don’t know I couldn’t I didn’t get back into it. But I’ve been talking to my wife about this saying I really we need to go back and start doing that. And of course, this is gonna sound crazy, but going back to the faith and the spiritual side of it. You know, it’s one of those things too that’s controversial amongst believers. And I and I am one of those people and this is where I piss off Christians all the time. Is like everything God created is good. Stretching and breathing is good. It’s not like man corrupts things man corrupted cannabis man corrupted. The medicinal mushrooms. Like we corrupted it and like abused all of these things. Yeah, that’s why it’s screwed up. But God invented stretching and, and breath and all of that. So how can it be bad? So i i Thank you for saying that because that almost not that it gives To me permission, but it really does motivate me because I’ve tried all the other things. Except going back to the one thing that got me in the best shape my heart was in shape. I everything I was I was a physical specimen when I was doing yoga all the time. I’d get

Marc Nelson
it because I like you have dealt with a lot of people who poopoo yoga for many reasons. And I honestly don’t understand why. If you recall the the margarita song. Pina Colada. Yeah, right. If you’re not into if you’re not into yoga, if you have half a brain, I just don’t understand that. Because from my point of view, if you have a brain, you’re doing yoga, because for all the reasons that you just said, and it’s actually one of the reasons why one, we have the scientific biotype quiz up on our site, which anyone can take. But we also have the scientific Weight Loss Program diary. And the point of the diary is not to replace or compete with my fitness pal, or Calorie King or the Apple Health app, all those work great. And we are working in harmony with those apps, the point of our weight loss, diarrhea so that folks can go up and they can track all of their data up online, they can invite their friends and family up online, you can see all of your scientific data, grow your diet, exercise, and lifestyle, data grow, all of your images grow. And you can see your progress over time. And you can get the support from your friends, from your family, from your dietician, from your fitness trainer, all then can go to the site, it’s all free in terms of being able to comment for free. And you can track all that data, and you can hold yourself accountable while getting the support that you need from your friends and family etc. So I please do yoga, it really is a fantastic exercise. And there are plenty of other great exercises. But for all the reasons that you said yoga is it really is a fantastic exercise. And I agree that I think that cannabis and all these other things were put here, they are here naturally, let’s use them honestly and wisely and in moderation.

Joshua T Berglan
Yeah, you’re right. And when I do need to preface what I just said about cannabis, I I’m an advocate for it as a medicine. In You know, I also in recreation, as well. However, it is something that I do believe that you should educate yourself on and if you’re taking other medications, especially pharmaceutical medications, you should be very, very worried about the intermixing of the two drugs, heart medication, pain medication, which really with cannabis, you shouldn’t need pain medication, but mixing the two, there’s a lot of different medications that do not mix well with cannabis or even CBD. So please educate yourself be responsible. When I say I’m an advocate, it’s not being an a hole about it. It’s not just being a waste of space. I’m not saying that but as a medicine, it is a gift from God. So anyway, I your website, again, I didn’t get to spend as much time as I wanted to on it. But I will tell you folks, you’ll be able to go to his website, when we have the media kit, you will have all of the links to his website and the work that he does. But I will tell you that the one thing I did notice was the quizzes. And that excited me because I that’s one of the things that I’m gonna go back and do this weekend is take the quiz, because when you have this kind of information available to you, folks, you should check it out. Because it’s like we all struggle with this. I mean, unless if you’re a lifestyle, fitness coach or whatever, you got your thing going on. But I would say the majority of us battle with our weight, we want to look healthier, we want to look more desirable, we want to have better sex, we want to have all the things we want to look the part and but we try the different things and we get frustrated we give up on it like me, I understand that. But these quizzes the way I got the way I felt about seeing this quiz was, well, at least now I’d be able to know so I instead of wasting my energy and just putting it all the wrong places. Now I can focus on doing the right thing by my body the way God made me. And that excited me. So I’m really looking forward to taking that quiz.

Marc Nelson
And let me say this too, please. I am. This is not about finding a way to say that one. biotype is better than another biotype oh, we’re simply bringing for the knowledge so that people can understand. So the analogy that I like to to use is we don’t get upset because four plus four is equal to eight. You just accept the fact that that is They fact and we can’t change it. And the same is true with our human body. We, we have our genetics and our DNA. And we can’t change that. And that’s not really true, we can, but it’s not easy. And that’s way down the road once we accept our human body for what it is, and once we accept it for what it is, and we figure out the best diet, exercise and lifestyle for it, then we can begin looking at ways how we can improve it, but we have to accept it first. And that’s one of the big issues right now, especially out on social media is, there’s all these filters and photoshopping and all this nonsense about perfect bodies, and is detrimental to mental emotional and spiritual health, as well as physical health. It’s not honest, it needs to stop. And so our information is not meant to do anything other than help you understand what your real scientific biotype is, so that you can then make the diet exercise and lifestyle choices based on science to better your health in the short term and in the long term. So Is that Is that making sense?

Joshua T Berglan
Well, it’s in it’s very, very appropriate to because one of the things that you just said was had a lot of layers to it. When you were talking about you’re not, you’re not telling people what to do. And this is how you should look, you’re like the science says there’s four different body types. So therefore what works for one will not work for another if our own government had that same attitude. Because one medication would work for one, but not the other. Because we’re human beings, we’re different, we react differently. So there’s no such thing as a one size fits all diet, or a workout regimen that is going to work for the world. The same with a medication. So I love that you just said that.

Marc Nelson
Amen. And I and the final thing that I’ll say is I do have a book. And I liked the fact that you talk about risky things, because the name of the book is overprivileged white guy. It’s my story. And the reason that I named it that was because when I figured out what my health was all about, and I ventured out into the world, I couldn’t imagine how much harder my life would have been in a biotech for had I not been a white man. Because it’s not a very friendly world, to non white people out there from my experience as a white man. So that was why I titled the book the way that it is. And I again, it’s it’s my story about how I came about the actual research. And it talks about other things, as well, but just wanted to throw that out there, you can get that up on the up on the website, as well. So I’m

Joshua T Berglan
gonna have a link to that also in the media kit that I create, and we distribute, which you’ll be able to find on Google News. The I liked this. So you brought up the blue zones, there’s a book called happiness in the Blue Zones, or is the happiness the green zones now I forget. But it’s basically the secrets of the world’s happiest places. And that’s not even actually the book, I’m sorry, I just brain farted the book that I forgot what I’m the I’m actually referencing, but reading that book, the happiness in the Blue Zones made me want to read this other book. And it was about every race and male and female and showing the the advantages or disadvantages that we’re born with because of our skin color. And because of our sex, and we all know, and I’m not apologizing for being white. I’ll never apologize for being how God created me. So we’ll stop there. But I will say, I know for a fact that my life has been easier because I’m a white guy. I’ve been in jail six times, I should have been jail in jail about 20 times, and I shouldn’t be in federal prison still. And if I wasn’t a white guy, I pretty much guarantee you that would go to jail. But I got so it’s not fair. It sucks. I hate it. But it is what it is. And I’m still not gonna apologize for being white, inherent advantages that other races do not have. And I know that, you know, society and the government, they’re all trying to change things and now make it where there’s 8 million sexualities and 8 million genders and all that stuff. But I mean, the fact is, in the all of these different movements, all it’s really doing is causing more division, we should all just be, hey, this is how God created me. I’m gonna be who I was created to be. I’m gonna live in my purpose, why I was created. Those are the things that should matter. But society has changed that and how that happened. I don’t know. But now I want to read your book. Because I do that that mindset without apologizing for being white just shows that you have a better take on reality than most people that I see every day.

Marc Nelson
Well, thank you. And what you just said shows that you do too, because there are a lot of white people out there who won’t even accept the fact that we do have advantages I like you have, there are times in my life where I should have gone to jail, I should have gotten a speeding ticket. But because I was a white dude, I got off with a slap on the wrist. And I’m well aware of that. And again, I’m not going to apologize for who I am, I can’t change that in terms of my skin color, but I do recognize it. And I do, I do want to do everything in my power with that awareness to help out every other human being on the planet, regardless of what their skin color is, or race or religion or whatever. Because I just don’t, I might hear to say something stupid, like, I will see skin color, I most certainly see skin color. But I don’t see it any other way than what you just said that in terms of genetics and DNA, we all have our differences. And there are advantages and different and disadvantages to all of it. And that just sort of is what it is. And I’ll sort of leave it there.

Joshua T Berglan
Very cool, man. Tell everybody how they can find you and support you.

Marc Nelson
You can go to fellow one.com. You can also go up on social media. So we have something up on the website called Ask Gnosis and think of it like Siri or Alexa. And if you if you buy the advanced scientific Weight Loss Program diary, you’ll get access to it. You can also buy credits, and I am in on that team. So I will be answering those questions. Whatever question that you have about diet, exercise and lifestyle. And we’re considering expanding it out to spiritual science. The only reason that we’re more hesitant about spiritual science stuff is because unfortunately right now, it doesn’t, it is still very much unaccepted in the scientific community I’ll be that is changing thanks to places like the University of Virginia’s Medical School Division of Perceptual Studies, where they have been doing 50 years of outstanding Spiritual Science Research. So that’s the only reason I don’t talk about it more, or it’s not more prominent up on our website, but we are proud spiritual scientists. And that’s really what the Ask Gnosis is all about. So you can go to the website, you can buy credits, or you can do the advanced weight loss diary. And you can talk with me there. You can also go up on social media, we’re on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, tick tock. Sure, I’m leaving one out, but we’re on social media also. And you can go there and talk with us. We have the four by types. And then we also do have the Ask Gnosis side of things up on social media. So either or school.

Joshua T Berglan
Alright, so spiritual science, the same thing as noetic. Science.

Marc Nelson
I am not sure. noetic science is that in OECI? In OE T IC,

Joshua T Berglan
and OE ti si Yes.

Marc Nelson
noetic science hold on real quick. I am not sure

Joshua T Berglan
not. I was just curious. I have a friend. He’s an Ireland. He’s one of the probably one of the most brilliant noetic scientist I know. And it’s at least you understand it at all.

Marc Nelson
But try to. So according to what Google says it is. How beliefs thoughts and intentions affect the physical world. So I would say yes, that that is that would definitely be a form of spiritual science. Because what we’re really talking about is how the soul from my point of view of the soul is in command. The the physical human body is just that it’s just a physical vehicle that our soul is in and is how we are here and when our body dies or soul moves on. So I would say that the noetic science is definitely a part of spiritual science. Yes.

Joshua T Berglan
I need to introduce you to Benjamin, I think you guys would have a very interesting conversation. Happy to meet him. Well, Mark, absolute blessing to have you here. I really appreciate. Appreciate your time. And look there again.

Marc Nelson
Thank you so much for having me. And I very much look forward to being on the show again. We’d love to come back. Amen.

Joshua T Berglan
We’ll definitely have you again. Take care and have a blessed weekend.

Marc Nelson
See you as well. See ya.

Joshua T Berglan
That was so interesting. I his website for cool. There’s just a ton of information there. And I almost got overwhelmed because I was going, you know, to look at just a couple things and then all of a sudden it was just so much information. And so I actually haven’t, I have a plan. I have it scheduled to spend time on his website, take that quiz. Because I want to know, like I, one of the things that I take very, very serious is that my body is a temple. And yeah, I go to the gym every day. Yeah, I workout every day, I try to be as active as possible. But I also sit in front of my butt. There sit in front of my butt, I sit on my butt in front of a computer for about 12 hours a day. You know, I try to make myself get up and move around and do all that. But it’s not working. I’m not in the shape that I want to be in and I work really freaking hard at it. I also like to eat and I’ve Yes, I’ve pushed away the doughnuts and I’ve not doing you know, eating all the sugar and things like that. Plus, it just, it hurts me now to even eat sugar, which is kind of a strange thing. But the last time I had a doughnut my body hurt all day, the next day. So anyway, you guys check that out fellow one.com. I believe he said but again, you can go to our website, where we will publish the media kit. You’ll be able to see it just see the transcript, links to all of the sites linked to his book. Really, really interesting dude, super grateful he came here. Thank you guys. You have a blessed weekend and we look forward to seeing you again.

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