On A Conversation with Joshua T Berglan, there have been several people come on to share their horrific experiences with CPS however this story is unlike anything I have ever heard.

Rachel Bruno is a hero, and the fight she took on and won is truly one of the most impactful stories ever told.

On A Conversation w/ Joshua T Berglan, Jessica Linn, & Rachel Bruno join the broadcast to share the ultimate story of hope in the dark, and anyone who hears it will be blessed.

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Joshua T Berglan

Joshua T Berglan, aka The World’s Mayor, is a voice for the voiceless and is driven to elevate the passion, purpose, and mission of those he serves. Joshua is the Chairman of the Live Mana Worldwide Foundation & Live Mana Network, Shock-Jock Evangelist, International #1 Best Selling Author for the Book “The Devil Inside Me” a Producer, and Filmmaker. Joshua is an expert in the future of media and loves supporting others in helping make their dreams come true.

TRANSCRIPT 

Joshua T Berglan
As I’m picking my nose no nose itches to every floor. Hey, we are live. What’s up everybody? My name is Joshua. This is my amazing wife, Jessica Linn. We are on a conversation with Joshua T Berglan today. And she’s my special guest host because while she’s my wife, and I like having her be a part of this. Anyway, we’re on the live mana Network. Thank you so much to everyone that has been supported our network, you’ve downloaded the app, she found us on Google News. All of it is appreciative. But if you want to find us the see which way is my finger going, okay. You know, the mirror thing is weird. So that barcode right there, you can scan and find links to all of our apps, you can find links to our nonprofit organization, the live mana worldwide Foundation, which the live mana network is a part of. We’re just super grateful for your support. And grateful to have this platform that’s censorship free that we can talk about issues that are well, really

tough, tough to talk about.

Joshua T Berglan
And one issue and this is it’s an interesting too, because this very topic that we’re going to discuss today is actually how we got kicked off, or other two networks. So but the cool thing is, is this, we have, I gotta be honest with you will give a platform to anybody and give anyone an opportunity to share their truth. And unfortunately, sometimes people expose themselves for being frauds. And we’ve seen a lot of that recently. But it is really encouraging to me with our guest today. Not only did she go through some of the CPS horror show, that we’ve heard about on this show before, but she actually fought and won. And so that, to me, is a good sign that she’s telling the truth. So with her telling the truth and us knowing that, I feel like we’re going to be able to get the foundational information that we need to know how we can better serve and help this population. Some of you don’t know. And I won’t go into the detail, but we had to deal with the CPS situation, not with not our children, not her two kids. But we had to say it was close to home, we had to show up in court had to meet with all the attorneys in Texas and the CPS people. And I gotta tell you, that is a completely different scenario than I ever imagined I would imagine myself to be in but I’m grateful for it because we got to look for what we saw on the surface what CPS was all about. So without going into a lot of detail here, I just want to say I’m super excited about our guest today, Rachel Bruno, she wrote a book called fractured hope, a woman’s fight our mom’s fight for justice. And I know that you can check that out on Amazon and I’m sure it’s on Rachel bruneau.com Also, and she’s taking what what I believe the enemy was using to try to break her. She’s now using as revenge on the enemy and also showing other people how to fight this fight. And so I have mad respect for already and we’ve said maybe five words to each other. So anyway, you guys are in for an absolute treat. Do you have anything to say? Well, I

jessica linn
mean, any mom willing to take what they’re gonna get in backlash fighting for their kids. I have mad admiration for them. That’s amazing. I know just from personal experience, so I’m excited.

Joshua T Berglan
That’s a mama bear.

jessica linn
Yeah, I’ll take anyone.

Joshua T Berglan
She’s, she’s tougher than me. Alright, we’ll be right back after these messages.

we both got Goosebumps. Goosebumps. I’ve seen that intro video, I think 50 times now. And for some reason watching and we both got goosebumps at the same time. I feel

jessica linn
like it becomes more relevant in today’s day. As the day is goodbye,

Joshua T Berglan
that’s true. Wow. Anyway. Well, guys, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, whatever you identify as today

jessica linn
gentleman but the call to action you were born with them.

Joshua T Berglan
And you know what it before anyone sends hate mail? You should read my story. So you’ll understand why we’re not making fun of anybody. No, not at all. Not at all. You just hear my testimony, you’ll understand. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen. I’m so excited. And you know what you should be too. And here’s why. Because finally, instead of the smoke and mirrors, Bs, people talking about things, my God, we’ve had people on this program that have run GoFundMe scams. And it’s heartbreaking. And it’s been so frustrating because we want to help good people, this is what we use this platform for is to elevate, not just not just to be a voice for the voiceless, but to elevate other voices for the voiceless. And people who take advantage of that pissed me off, because they’re getting in the way of good people getting the help that they need. And I promise you, God’s wrath is way worse than mine. I don’t got any money to do anything as I know, y’all are going to be taken care of in a you know, God’s way. But I’m so happy to have somebody that’s the real deal. And we can authenticate it. And we know, and because I’ve really want to understand this, like I truly want to understand, and I believe that there’s no one better on the planet than Rachel Bruno to help us do that. Ladies and gentlemen, grandchildren. Hello, my friend. How

jessica linn
are you? Good. How

Rachel Bruno
are you?

Joshua T Berglan
Good. Welcome to a conversation with Joshua T. Berglan. And Jessica Linn.

Rachel Bruno
Awesome. Thank you for having me.

Joshua T Berglan
Absolutely. Before we get into just the conversation here, first things first, what are you grateful for today and why?

Rachel Bruno
I am grateful to be alive today. And I am grateful to have my children with me. You know, as this story will reveal, my story could have ended a lot differently.

Joshua T Berglan
Yeah, in that in that saying something and I that it would be a good thing to go for. It’s probably the most obvious gratitude you could possibly have knowing just a little bit of your story that I do. But I guess my first question for you would be How did this happen? Like how did CPS take your kids from you?

Rachel Bruno
Well, just a little background about me, I have seizures, I have epilepsy. And one of my main triggers to the episodes are sleep deprivation or interrupted sleep. So when I had my second child, you know, all us moms out there. No, you ain’t sleeping with a newborn. Sometimes, so my doctors actually recommended that I get somebody to at least cover the night shift so that I could get those eight hours of sleep those eight solid hours. So I hired a nighttime nanny, and she would watch my son from 10 at night until six in the morning. So I had this person watching my son, she started when he was seven days old. And this happened when he was seven weeks old. I woke up to him screaming at about four o’clock in the morning. Now I look at the clock and like okay, four o’clock, probably feeding him or changing him something to that extent. He stopped crying. Then about 10 minutes would go by then he’d start screaming again. Then he stopped then he’d start again. So this went on for about 30 minutes until I decided to get up you know, I walked into his room. She had him swaddled inside the crib. And you know he was laying on his back Tommy side up. She had her hand on his chest and she was like wiggling him back and forth trying to get him to calm down. And he was not having it. I mean, that kid was screaming. So she picked him up, put him like an alert position on her shoulder. And at that point, he stopped screaming. And I, you know, I walked in, I looked at her, I’m like, Did anything happen? And she showed me an empty bottle. And she said, I just fed him. He’s really gassy. I said, Okay, you know, fair enough. Babies get gassy, seven weeks old. And at this point, I’m home alone. My husband is on a business trip out of state. I have my 20 month old son who’s sleeping directly across the hallway. And I’m like, okay, you know, the baby’s obviously not settling down. I’m already awake. Why don’t you just leave? I’ll take it from here. So she left that morning at around 535 o’clock. 530. I am swaddled my son looked for any rashes, any leakage? Any any sign that I could think of? No, there were no external physical signs of anything. So I just gave him skin to skin. He seemed to settle down. I’m like, Okay, no, you just wanted your mommy. I must have dozed off fell asleep. Next thing I hear him screaming again at seven o’clock in the morning. Okay, you’re hungry. Last feeding was for seven o’clock. So I tried to nurse him and he would not latch whatsoever. You know, I’d never had any issues before. But I was kind of jaded. You know, she told me he was gassy. So I’m like, okay, colic nursing strike, you know, we just don’t want to eat right now. So swaddled him again. And at this point, my 20 month old baby starts waking up, he starts calling my name. I tried to put the baby down. As soon as I laid him down, he just start screaming again. Like, okay, you know, what is wrong with this kid? I pick him up, he stopped screaming. I’m like, Okay, do you just want to be held, you know, son holding him, I go get my other son with my other arm. Put him down, you know, try to get our morning routine started. And I could just not put the baby down. You know, and I’m here with Dr. Google. I’m like, What is wrong with this kid? Nursing strike colic, you know, all of the above basically, right? Your infection, teething, whatever you can think of. And long story short, six hours go by, and he would not eat, he would not nap he I could not put him down. And I could notice like his body, his color was changing. He was turning white. I’m like, I don’t know what is wrong with his kids. Something is wrong with this kid. I call my mom asked her to come over so that she can stay with my older son so that I could take the baby to the pediatrician. I call the pediatrician and the receptionist tells me he doesn’t have any availability until three o’clock that afternoon.

I’m like he’s been screaming since four o’clock in the morning. He’s not eating. He’s not sleeping. I need to see somebody. And she said, Okay, then take them to the emergency room. So I’m like, Okay, fine. Let’s go. Everybody hop in the car. My mom, my 20 month old my seven week old and me drive to the hospital. And of course, what happens when you put babies in the car? They fall asleep, right? And he fell asleep. No more screaming no more crying. He seemed perfectly fine. And I’m like great. No overreact of mom going to the emergency room. I get there. Tell the receptionist what’s going on. She does immediately take me to the background. Check all his vital signs. Everything seemed fine. He looks like he was sleeping to me. But the doctor comes in tells me to lay him down on the bed asked me sometimes what happened. I tell him and he walks away. I’m like, okay, great. Probably going to tell me to give the kids some Benadryl and go home. But he stops about 10 feet away at the door. And he just stands underneath the doorway. And he has his arms crossed, and he’s leaning against the door. And he is just laser focused on my son on that bed. He doesn’t say a word, that whole room is quiet. And I’m like, Okay, this is weird. You know, thinking to myself, I’m looking at him. I don’t see anything. And the doctor walks back towards the bed and he goes straight to my son’s head right behind his left ear. He’s like, did you feel this? sad now? He grabs my fingers. He makes him put my hand there. It’s like you feel that bulge. And my gap says that’s fluid. That’s the brain. Okay, what does that mean? He says this could be spinal cerebral fluid is can be blood. We need to go do a CT scan right away to see what’s going on. And as soon as he says that, about 10 people rushed into that room. And they start placing the probes on him. You know, on his head. They raised the rails up to that the bed, the hospital bed, and they bolt down the hallway to that CTE room. And I’m holding him. And as I’m holding him, his right arm starts twitching. And those nurses run, I mean, start running and I look up at the nurse. I’m like, is this normal? And she just says no. And then I realized I’m like, Oh my gosh, left side of the brain. Right? I’m twitching. He’s having a seizure. And first thing that comes to my mind is oh my god, I gave it to him. Right? It’s hereditary. It’s genetic. I say a little prayer right there and like, Lord, please spare my son from having to live with this like I did. We get to the CT room, they told me to go wait in the waiting room for the results. And my mom is there my 20 month old son bouncing off the walls, and we’re just in shock, right? We’re like, What the heck just happened? I went from gassy baby to now some sort of life threatening brain condition. Doctors come back, you know, with the results. And they tell me Miss Brando. This is very serious. Okay, take me to the back where all the monitors are. And he shows me the image is like your son has a cranial fracture. And the fluid that’s leaking is blood. The brain hates blood. We need to go do emergency surgery right now to see if we can drain the blood fix the fracture, he starts giving me all these liability forms, are you against blood transfusions, and like I don’t care what you have to do to save my son say my son. And off they go wheeling off my seven week old baby to emergency brain surgery. And I’m still in shock, right? I’m still processing all this. I have no idea what’s going on. Like it never crossed my mind. You know, I think it doesn’t register with me the word fracture that like the bone was actually broken. You know, I figured it was a newborn baby. There craniums aren’t completely formed yet. I’m like, did one of those fontanelles pop open? The bleeding? Could it be an aneurysm? You know, I was thinking anything? Never did it crossed my mind that this could have been done maliciously or on purpose. So, you know, I go out there with my mom. My husband is on a business trip in a meeting, texting him, he has no idea what’s going on. And we’re just praying, you know, I text all my friends. I text my family in Brazil. You know, my son is in the operating room. Everybody pray for hours go by surgeon comes out. And you know, science. Okay, everything went clinically? Well, as far as we’re concerned, we were able to drain the blood. We were able to fix the fracture. And I’m like, okay, is he going to be okay, is he going to be brain damaged. And the doctor tells me we really don’t know. You know, due to his young age, we don’t even know whether he’s going to survive the next 48 hours.

He’s in a medically induced coma right now. Due to the all the seizures he started having after the surgery, probably due to the irritation of the blood coming into contact with the brain. He was having about 15 seizures an hour. So we have him in a medically induced coma right now until we can find the right cocktail to control the seizures. But he is stable. We will be monitoring him for the next 48 hours, I can take you upstairs to the PICU. So you know all this information coming at me. And I’m just trying to process everything trying to hold myself together. You know, trying to not lose hope. And I go into that room into the PICU. I see my son, you know with gauze wrapped all around his head. He has tubes coming out of every orifice. You can imagine those machines beefing you know those if you’ve ever been in an intensive care unit, you know those glass doors I mean, it’s very somber environment. And I just touched that little hand and I pray right there. I said, God, I don’t care if I have to dedicate the rest of my life to taking care of my son, I will just don’t take him away from me. And I felt the Holy Spirit at that moment. Say he’s mine. I gave him to you. Nobody’s going to take him away from you. And I breathed and he said, You’re right God, he is yours. He’s in your hands. No, no better place for my son to be right now than in your hands. I had to surrender my son’s life at that point. And once I did, you know the peace that surpasses understanding, filled my heart filled that room, turned around, looked at my mom hugged my mom. My son was there bouncing off the walls my 20 month old son. No Then I go into logistics mode. I’m like, I’m obviously not leaving the hospital. I’m going to spend the night here call my friend. Pick up my mom take my son going to spend the night at Grandma’s house. My son 20 months old, you know loved it that he was gonna go to my grandma’s grandma’s house, do whatever he wants. Give him a kiss. And off they go. And I’m sitting there waiting for my husband right texting my husband what’s going on? And I hear a knock on the door. The glass door slides open. This brutal Can we speak to you? And I look up and it’s a man in uniform. Like a brown khaki uniform, and a woman with a clipboard. And I’m like, Okay, I thought it was weird, you know, look like law enforcement. I’m like, Okay, sure. Yeah. And first words out of his mouth is Miss Brona. What happened to your son? was worse than getting struck in the head by a bullet. Oh my god. Okay. We want to help you Will you help us figure out how this happened to your son? So, you know, in my mind, I’m like, bullet to the brain, like, Are you insinuating this woman tried to kill my son? And if you’re asking me for help, you know, you obviously don’t think it was me. So I let them in. I’m like, okay, of course, come in, sit down. They come in and they start asking me questions. And I tell them the whole scenario from four o’clock in the morning, until now we’re at the hospital. And the police officer keeps asking me, Why didn’t you call 911? Because I didn’t know what was wrong with him. You know, she told me he was gassy. He’s jotting it down. Why did you wait so long to bring him to the hospital? Because I didn’t know what was going on. You know, she told me he was gassy. Why did you bring him to hospital in Orange County when you live in LA County? Because this is the children’s hospital that I know. So he’s very nonchalant, casually jotting things down. The social worker then asked me, Do you have any other children? I do. Like where are they? What are their names, their ages? So I tell her? And she says is it okay, if we go see him? And I’m thinking I have nothing to hide, right? These people are here to help me. That’s what they told me. So I tell her yeah, he’s at my mom’s house, he’s probably sleeping by now. And she said, we’re not going to wake him. We just want to make sure he’s okay. So I call my mom right in front of them. I tell her that they’re on their way social worker leaves at this point, and it’s about 930 at night with now, now. So I’ve been up since four o’clock in the morning. It’s 930 Now, and the police officer stays with me asked me if I will wait for the detectives, that the detectives are on their way. And they would like to speak to me as well. Instead, Okay, I’ll wait. And my husband arrives at around 10 o’clock. At the hospital, he comes straight from the airport to the hospital. The police officer grabs him doesn’t even let him go talk to me,

takes him to another room tells me to go wait in another room for the detectives. And in hindsight, we can kind of see what’s going on. But at that point, you know, we were just processing and I had no I had no idea what was going on. No just processing all this information that had happened to my son and my son was in a coma. Right, I was worried about my son. So the detective show up at around midnight. And they explicitly made it a point to tell me you know, this is not an interrogation. This is an interview, we are very thankful that you’re here to help us that you are cooperating with us. So you know, I talked to them, they interview me until two o’clock in the morning. been up since four o’clock. So now almost 24 hours awake. And I finally tell them, you know, I really need to go to sleep, I really need to get some sleep. I don’t want to have any seizures. And I’m more than happy to continue this on later today. So they were very nice. No, they complied, gave me their business cards, and I went to sleep. I wake up at 10 o’clock in the morning. And my husband is just staring at me this blank stare on his face. And my first instinct is to look at the baby. And like he’s here. He’s alive. Like what’s going on? And he tells me they took David. David is my 20 month old son, who was with my mom. And I’m like, What do you mean, they took David where? How who? Like they lied to me. They said they weren’t even going to wake him up. And he said, Well, that’s not what happened. They showed up at your mom’s house at two o’clock in the morning with three police cars. And they took David and we don’t know where he is. They’re not answering their phones, social services is not answering. And I’m like oh my god, what, what? What? So I call my mom and like what happened? And she said, yeah, they showed up here at two o’clock in the morning they walked in the house. They asked me where the kitchen was open the refrigerator to see if we had any food, walked through the house, open the cabinets. Then ask me where David was I showed them she turned on the light. Woke up David at two o’clock in the morning. Then she asked me to undress him. I addressed him she looks for any signs of abuse, or rashes or anything. And she admits there were none. But then she tells me we’re taking him. And my mom was like, No, you’re not. And the social worker tells us well, if you don’t give them to us, you’re gonna get arrested. Now there are three cops right there, and nobody says anything. And my mom doesn’t know what’s going on. I’m asleep. My husband at this point is on the phone with my mom telling the social worker you cannot do this. I did not give you permission to do this. But they wouldn’t listen to us of course, like we’re calling for backup. And my son is noticing all the commotion going on. My mom didn’t know what to do. And today she tells me you know, in her head at that point, she thought it would be less traumatic for my son if she would give him to them as opposed to them physically ripping him from Huh, yeah. So she gave my son to the social worker. And he’s kicking and screaming, of course won’t let her put him in the car seat, my mom has to go in there, strap him in the car seat, she gives my mom her business card and says Call me and off the drive in the middle of the night, not telling us anything, what’s going on, where they’re taking him. And here we are the next day, we still don’t know where he is. They’re not answering their phones. So my husband and I, you know, divide and conquer. He’s calling social services, I start calling lawyers. And I had to call about 10. Lawyers before I found one that knew what was going on. And who would actually speak to me and take my case, I met him that afternoon at around noon. And I get to his office, and I’m like, okay, where the heck is my son? And where do I go get? And he tells me sit down. You have no idea what you’re in for. And I’m like, What are you talking about? They can’t just come take my kid. It’s like, yeah, they can. And then like, what happened to our Constitution? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? What about the nanny? And he said, they may investigate, or they may not. But this is family court. They don’t follow constitutional law. And I’m like, what other law is there? And he said, they can do whatever they deem is in the best interest of the child. And again, I’m like, How is it in the best interest of my son to pick him up at two o’clock in the morning and take him to God knows where, and he just stops me right there. He like he slams his fist on the table. And he’s like, listen to me. What happened to your son is criminal. Okay, you are facing 15 years in jail, and $100,000 bail, if they decide to charge you. They’re not going to give your kids back to you.

And I’m like, What are you talking of what jail like I didn’t do this? And he’s like, I believe you doesn’t matter. Like, what do you mean, it doesn’t matter. And he’s like, if I go into that courtroom, and I asked the judge to give those kids back to you, social services is going to pull this up. And he pulls up the criminal investigation is that they’re going to tell the judge, Your Honor, this woman is under criminal investigation. And you are placing these children at risk by giving them back to her. And if that happens, they’re going to be placed in foster care. They are two years old, under two years old and nonverbal, they can be legally adopted by the foster family. If the case lasts longer than six months, and they will make it lasts longer than six months. And I’m like, jail adoption. I’m like, what, what world? What country? Am I living in? Like how? Now? You know, and I’m, I guess I had a nervous reflex of giggling while he was telling me this, right? I kept laughing. I’m like, This is unbelievable now. And he actually called his wife from across the room. She was a paralegal. And she’s like, she’s not believing me. She’s not taking this seriously tell her. And she comes in, it’s like, yes, they can do this. They do this all the time. And I’m like, okay, so what are you telling me? What, what, what are we going to do? And he said, You’re saving grace, is that your husband was out of state when this happened. So Legally speaking, he wasn’t even at the crime scene. So we’re gonna ask the judge to give full custody to your husband. That way, they don’t even risk going into foster care. But if the judge grants this, they are going to kick you out of the house. So I mean, at that point, what choice that I have, right, go into that courtroom and fight for my non existent rights, apparently, and risk my children being placed in foster care, or having them be with their father and do whatever the heck you want to me, but leave my kids alone. So that’s what happened. I mean, I went home to the hospital. At that point, you know, hospital was our home. And I tell my husband, and everybody is just horrified. Right and in shock, that this is what’s going on. And my lawyer, my attorney knew where I’m where David was, they actually took him to the county Children’s Shelter. And they would not release them to me, they would not release them to my husband. He was there for 48 hours with strangers. And I asked him, I’m like, okay, you know, we have a hearing and three days they required to do an emergency hearing, which isn’t 72 hours. They took away my son, I’m like, I don’t know what’s going to happen at this hearing. Can I at least see my son? And my attorney said, Well, I’ll see what I can do. So he calls them calls me back. He’s like, they’re willing to let you see him for 30 minutes at the Children’s Shelter. So I go with my husband to that Children’s Shelter. And my son was like a zombie Okay, I mean, he looked at me, he wouldn’t come close to me. You know, he’s just staring at me. And the social workers with him, and she’s like, Yeah, he didn’t sleep very well last night. And I’m like, yeah, duh. And like, he hasn’t eaten. Like, yeah, what have you fed him, like hot dogs and puppies. And he’s just a zombie. You know, I sit down on him. And at this point, my husband and I are from Brazil. We only spoke Portuguese with him at home, and made a signed document saying we would only speak. Because, you know, we were under investigation now. So the social worker had to hear what we were saying, making sure we’re not brainwashing our son or whatever. So I’m there with him speaking in English, and he’s looking at me like, What are you saying? Like, what? Who? Who are you? You know, I sit down on the floor, he does sit down with me in my lap, he starts playing, letting his guard down. And the social worker tells us Your time is up. And my husband and I get up. And my son notices, right? He’s already clinging to my leg. Oh, mommy, no. And I’m just I try and like maybe what we’ll see you again, you know, we’ll see you again soon. And he’s clinging to my leg, I am the social worker, ma’am, you have to leave, you have to leave. I’m trying to control myself not cry in front of my son.

She picks him up. And he is, you know, bending over trying to reach out to me and my husband, my husband, and I just hold hands, we turn around, and we start walking away. And our son is screaming for mommy and daddy. And the screams, you know, just get further and further away, the further we get. And we get to our car. And we just cry like to school children mean, a grown man crying like a baby, me and my husband just crying. And we’re praying and we’re like, God, this isn’t happening. This isn’t possible. You know, Please, Lord, please, don’t let this happen. And this is 48 hours, we had the hearing the next day, which was going to be the emergency hearing where the judge was going to decide whether they would kick me out of the house, whether they would give them to my husband, whether they would place them in foster care. I mean, everything was up in the air. And we are just begging clinging to God, you know, please open these judges eyes open these lawyers eyes, whatever, that the truth be revealed. So we go to the hearing the next day, when I’m thinking it’s going to be at least like Judge Judy. You talk, you talk, you talk. And we show up at that court. The Nanny isn’t there. The social worker isn’t there. The police officers aren’t there. The detectives aren’t there. The doctors aren’t there. The only person on trial is me. And it’s just me with a table with a bunch of lawyers. You know, I have my husband’s counsel, my counsel, the children’s Council, who I never even met, and they’re representing my children. And then the Social Services Council. They’re all there. And I’m just sitting there waiting for the judge to call my name right and ask me what happened. And next time I hear my name is Bruno, any objections? Said what? And my attorney any objections to the children being placed with their father said no. Then asked my husband Mr. Birnam any objections now? Children’s counsel and objections now? Social Services and objections? Yes. And then the judge why? Because we never got to speak to the Father. Therefore, we don’t know whether he’s fit or not. So at this point, judge orders court to be in recess. We go out into the hallway, and I’m like, Oh, my God, this is not happening. Like, are you serious. And my attorney hands me a bunch of papers, the court reports that include, you know, the police officers narrative, the social workers narrative, the hospital narrative, all this stuff that they have so far, and he’s like, I want you to go through this underlying things that you think are inconsistent or that aren’t truthful. I just want you to be psychologically prepared to be really pissed off right now. After you read this. And I’m like, Okay. And meanwhile, we’re gonna go back into the courtroom. We will deal with them in there, but you I want you to stay out here and you go through this. So I’m going through the document, and he you know, has he said I read what the police officer said, and the police officer said mother does not seem empathetic towards her son. The social worker said mother is not exhibiting the normal behaviors of a grieving mother. What the doctor says mother is acting as if this were just some regular doctor’s appointment. She has to ascribe various scenarios to me of what could have possibly happened. And, you know, they’re just like my character in these, you know, few minutes that they spoke to me at that hospital during a moment where, you know, I couldn’t have been more distressed in my life after what had happened to my son. But there they are, you know, basically insinuating that I’m some psychopath, you know, but I have no emotion that I’m not feeling anything. And I was like, you know, I was in shock people, I had no idea what was going on. And you told me you were there to help me. Like I was trying to hold myself together, what use would it have been to be hysterically crying if you’re here to help me? And then I’m perusing through looking for any mention of the nanny, like, did they even go talk to this woman. And there was a little section where a social worker did go talk to her, after they had already taken my son, David. They went to go talk to the nanny. And it is noted in the court report that her one year old daughter had a bruise under her eye, when they went to go speak to her. And that they asked her, you know, why does your daughter have a bruise under her eye? And that the nanny said she fell off the bed when she was sleeping.

And that was that. They asked her, you know, how was my son and was anything wrong with my child. And she told them that the baby was perfectly fine when she left the house. And I’m like, you know, that doesn’t even make sense. Like, I’m paying this woman a lot of money to be watching my son. Why would I have let you go home early? Why would I have even woken up? If everything was perfectly fine when you left? Yeah. So you know, there was just these things on the court report. And I got through it all, I noticed things and then we get called back into the courtroom, and the judge reopens and he says, The Social Services objection is overruled. Children will be placed with their father. So thank God, you know, by the grace of God, and then he tells me Miss Bruno, you have 24 hours to vacate your home. You are a court order to take child abuse classes, parenting classes, individual counseling, and a caseworker will be contacting you regarding visitation. Court is adjourned. So within 15 minutes, you know, my whole life was pulled out from underneath me. Right? I lost my home, I lost my husband, I lost my children. I’m like, you know, I go out there, I’m sobbing with my mom, we’re both crying. My attorney is there. And he’s like, I told you this was gonna happen. And I’m like, I know. But I still can’t believe this is happening. And like, what am I supposed to do now? Like, where am I supposed to live? I’m an only child. My whole family is in Brazil, they wouldn’t let me live with my mom, because my mom was not going to be the primary caretaker. While my husband had to work and take care of the two year old. And Lukas, my baby was still in the hospital. And it was yet to be determined what was going to happen where he was going to go when he was released from the hospital. So my attorney tells me as long as your son is in the hospital, you can sleep in the hospital, they can’t kick you out. It’s a monitored facility. So I’m like, okay, then I went home, got rid of all my stuff in my house. He’s like, you don’t leave one toothbrush in that house. I don’t want any signs of you know, shampoo, no, nothing, because they’re gonna come to your house, they’re gonna go look through the house, they’re gonna write down everything. And the judge is going to look at everything that they write down. So you don’t leave one trace of yourself. And I took out everything, I must have donated half my wardrobe. And my next door neighbor, you know, was gracious enough to let me put all the boxes in his house. And I didn’t know when I was going to be home. Well, what was going to happen? I had no idea what was going to happen. And I’m in the hospital sleeping in the hospital, about two days go by, and my mom goes to church, our church that we regularly attended. My pastor was out of the country. He was in Oxford writing a book. So she asked my husband’s the pastor’s wife, if she would go to the hospital and pray for us. So she did she came to the hospital, prayed for my son. You know, at that point, he was still in the coma still in the medically induced coma. And she hugged me, prayed for me, and then she looks at me. I’ve been praying, and God told me you’re coming home with me. So, you know, I’ve been at this church for about six years, and I knew them. You know, it’s a high buy relationship. But we weren’t intimate friends. You know, she basically invited a stranger into her house. And these little things started happening, right, these little pearls, that God would just drop throughout this journey. And in this, I couldn’t have asked for a better friend at that point. She prayed with me. She laughed with me. She cried did with me mean she did everything with me, gave me the strength to go on. I remember going into the first child abuse class, and I’m like, What the heck am I going to do in a child abuse class? Like I figured I’d be in there with a bunch of drug addicts alcoholics, pierced up tattooed crazy people with tattoos.

When I get there, everybody was in the same boat that I was, oh, my, nobody had abused their child. There were bathtub accidents. There were Park accidents. There were disgruntled exes. I mean, the stories were crazy. And I was in there, you know, and I start telling what my story was. They could complete my sentences. They could say, oh, let me guess your kids work or so. And so? Yeah. Oh, you’re judges so and so. Yeah. Dr. so and so? Yeah. And I’m like, what, like, this is normal, like this happens. And even the facilitators, right? The people that are facilitating this class, like, oh, yeah, they do it all the time. This happens all the time. And I’m like, why? Like, why am I is nobody doing anything? What what is this? And, you know, they all roll their eyes, they let out their deep sighs. And they’re like, yeah, it’s, it’s about the money. And I’m like, what money. And then I remembered my son, David. They wouldn’t release him to me, right? They wouldn’t release him to my husband. They released him to my mom, because my mom was a public school teacher. She was fingerprinted. She was a mandated reporter. And before I even had that hearing, the emergency hearing, they asked my mom if she would adopt my kids. And my mom’s like, No, we give them back to their mom whom they belong. And the social worker said, well, we don’t know what the judge is going to order. If the judge orders the removal of the children, will you adopt them? My mom’s like, what happens if I don’t go to foster care? So my mom’s like, okay, so she signs the papers mean, okay, it’s a piece of paper saying that I’ll take the children. So she signs the pieces of paper, and the social worker hands her two checks. For $680 each. She’s like, you’ll be receiving $680 a month per child, they will qualify for Medicaid, they will qualify for food stamps, they will qualify for, you know, all the social welfare benefits we had in California. And my mom’s like, I don’t want your money. And the social worker tells us well, this is how we help the families. So here I am in this child abuse class, and they’re telling me it’s about the money. So, you know, Dr. Google at night, when I’m home alone, trying to figure out like what, like, this is evil man, like why. And I found there is such a law called the adoptions and Safe Families Act, which was signed into law by Bill Clinton in 1997. And it basically gives the States federal money for every child that is adopted through foster care. So I don’t know if you remember back in the 90s, a lot of buzzwords like forever family. It takes a village. You know, this was first lady, then Hillary Clinton, this was her brainchild to come up with this solution of why kids were spending so much time in foster care, without being adopted, you know, without being placed without having permanency without having stability. Yet, nobody ever asks, you know, should these children have been removed to begin with? Right. So yeah, there was this law. And all these people that were in the child abuse class with me, were getting their parental rights terminated. Were getting their children placed for adoption, in foster care. They were having to pay for their monitored visitation. They were having to pay their probation officers. I mean, it was crazy. It was insane. And one day, as I was still at the pastor’s house, somebody very close to me called me. And they’re like, Rachel, I’ve been praying and one word keeps coming to my mind. And it’s repent. And I’m like, okay, no kind of felt like job at that moment. Like, you’re telling me, I deserve this, or I did something to do this. And she’s like, I don’t know. That’s just a word that keeps coming to my mind. And I’m like, you know, okay, later that night, take it to God. Right. I prayed. I’m like, Okay, God who sinned? Right. Was it my mother? Was it my father, and again, the Holy Spirit just speaking to me. I mean, I had never had more closeness with God, and at this point, and he said nothing my daughter, this is just the evil The world we live in. This is about the destruction of the family. What you’re witnessing right now is about the destruction of the family. And it’s what the devil has been trying to do from the moment I created it. And I’m like, You’re right. Okay and enable Adam and Eve. Always about destructing of the family. And, but no consoled me and said, but you’re not.

I have already taken care of the children. It will be for a short period of time, your story will be used to help families, everything you are going through is not going to be in vain. said Amen. Thank you, Lord. And from that moment, my perspective completely shifted to, you know, here I am, I know Jesus. I know God, I have him as my Savior. I have hope. My children have hope they’re with their husband. I mean, I have this incredible support system around me. What about all these other families who don’t know all these parents who are in this child abuse class with me who don’t know Jesus? How do you go through this without knowing Jesus? And completely shifted my perspective on everything, you know, it stopped being Why me, too, why not me? You know, Jesus suffered. The Son of God suffered was accused falsely accused me betrayed, you name it. Everything that we have suffered in this world has suffered as well. So I just began interceding and praying for those families. Right, Lord use me and these child abuse classes, for Your glory, for hope for these families. And to this day, I’m still in touch with them. I have one very good friend who had the same attorney, I did have the same judge, I did have the same caseworker I did had the same hospital I did. And her parental rights were terminated. In October of 2018. She lost all four of her children. Her husband lost his two children from a previous relationship because he refused to divorce her. And I’m like, Lord, this is crazy. This is so evil. This is so evil. And once my case was done, you know, on the 40th day, I had a court hearing. It was 40 days and 40 Nights. I’ve had been given seven hours of monitor visitation with both my sons during those 40 days. And on the 14th day, I had a hearing my attorney tells me, you know, don’t bother coming to court today. The criminal investigation is still open, the status of your investigation hasn’t changed. Don’t waste your time. I won’t waste my time. And I’m like, he’s been right all along. So I call my husband I tell him, you know, he tells us not to go. And my husband says, I don’t care what he says we’re gone. I’m like, Okay, fine, let’s go. So we go to the courthouse sitting there in the hallway of death, as I call it, everybody in that hallway waiting for their names to be called. And we sit there for about two hours. My attorney calls me, where are you? I’m at the courthouse. He’s like, Okay, I’m on my way might be able to do something today. Hangs up on me. And I’m like, okay, texting everybody. Everybody start praying. I don’t know what’s gonna happen. something’s gonna happen. I had my whole family in Brazil, praying for me. I had an entire church in Brazil of 5000 people. Wow, who the pastor made them all stand up to the north, north America. And we are going to pray for this family. And they all fasted for those 40 days. This was I had friends in Switzerland, praying for me. I had missionaries in Africa, praying for me. I had the entire America praying for me. So we’re there. Everybody’s just praying, my attorney comes down the hallway, I go hug him. He pushes me away. He’s like, Don’t hug me. I can’t make any promises. Like, okay, oh, he walks into that room. And he comes back out with a bunch of papers. Again, initial this sign this initial this, I have no idea what I’m signing what I’m initially just trusting God at this point, in and out, in and out in and out for about three hours, till he comes out with a stack of papers about 700 pages. Wow. He’s like, Okay, here’s the deal. If you’re willing to sign this document, the way it is written. There’s nothing in here admitting guilt. There’s nothing in here saying that you did this. It’s just the social workers narratives, the police investigation, the medical records, the services you’ve completed, they will let you go home today. Now at that point, if they had told me to cut off my leg, I would have done it. I just wanted to be home with my husband and with my children. I signed that document and my attorney told me I’ve been doing this for 23 years, and I have never seen that Let anybody go home before trial,

you definitely have a higher power working for you. Yes, I do, amen. Praise the Lord. So I went home that day, the case remained open, they put us on what they call the family maintenance plan, where a social worker would come to our house every month for the next six months. And at the end of the six months, it was her recommendation that our case be closed. I was still court ordered to take all those services to child abuse classes, the parenting classes, the individual counseling, do all that stuff. The case was closed six months. And I just had to fire up my butt at this point. And like, I can’t be quiet. Like witnessing everything that I witnessed the injustice that I’ve witnessed. And I know, it was the hand of God on my family, like I’m no better than any of those parents that were in there with me. You know, I have absolutely no explanation of why I got my kids back and they didn’t. Because, you know, the circumstances were the same. Accidents, no people talking like there is no there was no due process, there was no trial, there was no proof, there was nothing. They just decided they made up their minds. And I’m like, I can’t, I can’t. And you know, I remember that prayer I had, that God would use this for good that God would use this to help families and that this was not going to be in vain. So I reached out to a civil rights attorney, who all he does is Sue CPS. He’s done it a million times in California. I spoke to him asked him if he would take our case. And he said he would. So we began the civil proceeding to sue Orange County, LA County, the hospital, the sheriff’s department, social services, and all the individuals associated with our case. And it wasn’t until we sued them that we had access to the juvenile records. And the juvenile records are supposed to remain sealed until they’re 18. Right, supposedly, for the children’s protection. But it’s really for their own protection to cover their butts and what they did, while the case was open. And it was there that we discovered that when they took David, my 20 month old son to the shelter, they gave him 13 vaccinations without our consent, shut up. without a court order without a warrant. They actually took David without a warrant. They gave him a full skeletal survey, which is basically an x ray of every image in your body or upon every bone in your body. They gave him what is called an anal wink test, which is for allegations of sexual abuse, when there wasn’t even any allegations of sexual abuse. And I mean, it was a whole other sort of pain, right to read these documents and see just the heartlessness like, like why, like how do you people live with yourself? How can you do this? And, you know, making up stories like doctors know, right, that they need warrants that they need parental consent in order to perform these kinds of examinations on any child on any minor, except when there are exigent circumstances, which is life or death situation. So the social worker wrote to the doctor, that there was a suspicion that my son had been thrown against the wall. And that they may be some internal bleeding or you know, whatever, any kind of something going on inside to where the doctor had to perform these very invasive procedures on my son, after he had just been taken from his grandma’s house at two o’clock in the morning. They had to tie him down to the hospital bed to be able to get to him to take the x rays. And I just I’m like God Almighty, you know, what goes through a child’s mind, right and through his heart. And he did I mean, he rejected me for about a year, even after I was allowed to come back home. He kept pushing me away, he kept pinching himself biting himself. He would say, I don’t want you mommy. He wanted to go back to my mom’s house because my mom was the one who rescued him right from the shelter. And I remember one day giving him a bath, and he’s just fighting me. And I just start crying and I run to the bathroom and I go cry, and I go pray again. I’m like, God, I can’t do this. You know, I’m building a wall against my three year old son, three years old at this point. And I’m like, I know he’s the victim. I know what they did was wrong, but the words hurt, right? I can’t take this the rejection. What am I supposed to do? And the Holy Spirit again, go talk to him. I’m like, he’s, he’s three years old. He’s not going to understand this. I guess he will go talk to him. So I get him out of the bathtub. I sit down with him. And I say you remember when your aunties had to come take care of you. The first words out of his mouth, why did you leave?

So he remember that the pictures of his brother in my phone. Mike, this is what happened to your brother. And they thought that Mommy did this. And he went like you never heard us, Mommy. I know. But they thought that Mommy did and if I had done this to him, I was going to do it to you. But none of this was your fault, David. No, it was not mommy’s choice. It was not daddy’s choice. It was nobody’s choice for this to happen. We did it because we loved you. But we’re not going to let them get away with it. No, they just made some really bad choices. It’s like you’re gonna fight the mummy. We will like you’re going to hit them, Mike. Yeah, we’re gonna hit them. papers on there. And, you know, just having this organic, transparent conversation with my four year old son. Like, we have to forgive them. You know, I don’t know what happened. I don’t know what the nanny did. I could see him fail. Like, I don’t know, David, she’s in God’s hands. He’s gonna take care of her. And all these other people, we have to forgive them. God forgave us first. Right? You have to forgive them. And regardless of what happens, God is the judge. Amen. So I prayed with him. And it was a complete 180. From that point on, my son completely shifted. And God restored everything the locals tried to eat and destroy God restored. And we filed the civil suit. I showed him the papers, my care, here’s the papers that we’re going to fight them with. And I signed it in front of him. We prayed over it with him. He put it in the envelope, he put it in the mail. So you know, children are a lot more are smarter than we think than we give them credit

Joshua T Berglan
for us. They are. Thank you for that too. Because we are brutally honest with our children about everything

jessica linn
we did. We just are truthful. Yeah, yeah. About everything because they’re lied to about so much. And they get it. Yeah, they understand it when you just say it how it is.

Rachel Bruno
Yeah. So we filed the suit and went through discovery. Like I said, we got all those documents, we depose them. I mean, I have text messages of the social workers. Before they even interviewed me before they got to the hospital. They are sending each other text messages. To her supervisor. She says heading to the hospital infant with a fracture has a 20 month old sibling was with the nanny per mom. And the supervisor replies back Oh, mg, do you think it was the nanny? And this social worker replies back no think mom before they ever spoke to me. Whoa, we’re doing this discovery, deposing them. till finally about after one year of discovery, we had the mediation. And we ultimately settled in December of 2018 for $1.49 million. And, you know, there’s no amount of money that can ever repay us for what they did. It wasn’t about the money, you know, but I did want a clean slate. I mean, we had about $250,000 in debt at that point. fighting them and the medical bills and all the services they made us do me and I had to get a private investigator to find out if we could see anything about the nanny, and no real red flags, except she was married to a cop. And my, my private investigator told me, you know, this is code blue, they’re not going to go after her. Wow. And I got videos of her doing her polygraph, she didn’t take a polygraph. And it was a very different experience than what I had. I also took a polygraph. She failed her. She didn’t fail. Hers came back inconclusive. And she refused to take it again. I passed mine with flying colors, but it was never presented. So just you know, it was very clear that they had no intention of reunification, or even going after the truth. Right. It wasn’t what was the truth. They just wanted, they had made up their minds, and they wanted to prove that they were right. They are too prideful, you know, too arrogant to ever admit that this was a mistake. And it was funny when we were in the settlement discussion. You know, a lot of back and forth. A mediator is just written on those yellow legal pads. My attorney writes down all the demands and goes back to one room and then they come back with their counteroffers. And I asked my attorney, I’m like, well, they at least apologize, like well, they at least say they’re sorry for what they did. And my attorney laughs He’s like, No, but I can write it down here just to make them

jessica linn
good for him. So

Rachel Bruno
excuse me, he wrote it down on the yellow pad that if you wanted an apology on official letterhead signed by so and so and gave it to them and they came back. It was scribbled like a four year old had gotten Hold up a pen for the first time and like, No, we’re not gonna give you an apology. Wow. So we settled. And you know, today I can look back. And thank God, of course, I was thankful I was grateful that we were able to settle and we were able to pay off our bills, we were able to get a clean slate. But that day, I hated myself so much that day, like, it was the weirdest feeling. You know, I’m like, I want it to go to trial, like, I want these stupid people held accountable. I want them on the stand, I want them to, you know, the jury to hear these people. I don’t care if I win $1 At trial, I just want these people held accountable. And my attorneys like I understand, you know, I know, I’m not saying your case doesn’t have merit, it does, you probably would win at trial. Question is how much we don’t know. And again, juries are finicky, right, people are finicky. It’s a toss up. You never know, like, somebody might not like the sound of your voice, and already have a bias against you. It’s true. And remember, we’re fighting who are the good guys know, the police officers, social workers, doctors, these are all supposed to be public servants doing God’s work, shows very hard to convince a jury right that these things were done maliciously. And even if you do when the other side is going to appeal, and then we’re back to square one, you’re going to be in this for another five years. So my advice to you is take the money and run, close this chapter on your life. You know, just think about the emotional toll, the financial toll that this is going to take on you and your family for the next five years, you really want to be doing this for the next five years. And I just had to pray, you know, in that mediation room, and you know, have like the little devil on one side and the little angel on the other side of your shoulder. And, like Don’t be stupid, Rachel, right? Don’t be stupid. And do not let your pride get in the way. Right, your emotions get in the way. My husband and I had a number in mind when we went to that mediation, like we’re not going to settle for anything less than 1.5. And they came back with 1.49. And I’m looking at my husband and we’re like, okay, okay, $100,000 Are we really going to do this $400,000. And I don’t think it was me who spoke I mean, the Holy Spirit opened my mouth and just said yes, to accept that 1.49. And we accepted that deal. But I spent the next three days in bed, like I couldn’t get out of bed. And my friend Rihanna, who had all her parental rights terminated. I was still in contact with her at that point. She calls me one day. And I thought she was going to talk about you know, something regarding her case, or if anything had changed. And she calls me and she says, I just want to tell you, you’re amazing. And I’m like, what? Why am I amazing? It’s just like, you’re amazing. Or what you did, to this day still makes me cry. I’m like, I’m, I’m nothing. My kids she is you know, she’s lost everything. And here I am, you know, complaining about what I want that it doesn’t feel right. So the conviction, right, the conviction that the Holy Spirit gave me at that point. It’s like you put on your big girl panties on. And you go fight this fight. Okay, I’ve already given you the relief. I’ve already given what your family needs. Now you go fight this fight. And anytime I feel like giving up or anytime I feel, you know, am I really getting anywhere? I always remember that conversation I had with Rihanna. And Rihanna is like the poster child for what I want the system to change. You know, and the family who you know, was not the perfect family. What there is no perfect family, there is no perfect parent. Like who defines what is in the best interest of the child?

Right. So, yeah, I mean, thank God, I got my kids back, we got our family back together. We want our civil suit. I was able to write the book, and I just want people to wake up and know that we’ve been lied to about foster care. And that foster care is not the Make a Wish Foundation. No. And that there aren’t you know, all these abused children that need Foster’s No, there are a lot of families who need help. Yes, right, who need help. And like they offered my mom 680 $80 a month to take my children. What if I was a single mother? What if I was working two to three jobs and I didn’t have the money to be able to provide for my for my children? Why not give that money to me? Right and why not offer those services to me to keep my family together? I mean, think about the trauma, you are causing these families, these children and me and my son was only there for two days. And he was completely different person than what he was when he left my house? No, I don’t care if it’s been one day if it’s one year, the damage is done. Yep. Right. So that’s my story. You know if you have any questions, I’m open.

jessica linn
Oh my gosh, you’re like Superwoman. God definitely put his strength in you. I can’t even imagine.

Joshua T Berglan
i Well, hold on. I know that you would fight like her. But that’s not to take away from her courage and what she’s done. I know you do the same? Because I know the kind of mom you are.

jessica linn
The pain? Ah, yeah,

Joshua T Berglan
yeah, your your MO. You know, she’s emotional. In a good way, in a good way. Yeah. I mean, I feed off of her. So I get it. But I know that you would fight. Yeah, I but I love meeting people like you because it’s whether it’s this case or something else, it’s, it just shows that the problem can look too big for us. But it’s not bigger than our God. And, and I love the way that you talked about, you know, speaking with the Holy Spirit and finding peace in that, like you. I mean, this is really a testimony. This is all this is, is. This is like when people give their testimony about how they find Jesus. Right? This is a testimony of how amazing Jesus is, and why we even when we you know, you meet people that love the Lord. This is why we love the Lord is because it’s strength. Where that comes out of nowhere. It’s it’s the power to take to do the impossible. It’s Jesus in the evil. And that’s an all the every victim that has dealt with this. And I think we’ve had this as the fourth or fifth one. Now, the interview of a situation like this, you’re the first person that’s talked about clinging to the Lord, you’re the first person that’s painted this picture. And this is what, I’m so grateful for you doing this too, because it helps us with our discernment. Because I don’t want to help the wrong people. We want to help the right people. And the people that under like, like yourself, like, this is so cool, and so amazing. And yet at the same time, so uncomfortable and painful to hear. Yeah, but it’s I am so inspired. I have one question. I really this is the question. To anyone out there that is that is facing this situation? What do you have to say to them?

Rachel Bruno
I mean, yeah, I would not have gotten through this without God. You know, you have to claim to a higher power. Because once the government is involved, they have all the power, they have all the resources, they have endless, endless resources. Right. And they know it mean they can run you dry financially, emotionally, physically. I, I had nothing, literally nothing. And I remember in those nights by myself, you know, having grown up in church, my dad was a pastor, my grandpa was a pastor, I grew up in a Christian family, and always hearing No, God’s grace is enough. You know, God will never leave you or forsake you know, all these little Bible verses you grew up hearing. And you’re like, yeah, yeah, no, wait one year out the other. Right. But is it really right? And I had to live that, like I was, I had nothing, I had nothing but God and His Word, and I had to clean to the promises in His Word. And the Holy Spirit will work through you. You know, he is the comforter, he will work through you. Even when my attorney told me that I was gonna go to jail. Right, I was still not in the clear, right, the criminal investigation was still open. And up until that point, they had done everything illegally anyway, what would have stopped them putting me in jail? Yeah. So I remember praying one day, you know, and oh, my God, if I have to go to jail, like I really don’t understand this. I don’t understand why. I know my children are with their father. You know, they you with their Father, I pray for their Father, Lord, cover him in your grace and to be able to take care of these children. If I have to go to jail. And if there is somebody in that jail that needs to hear about you. And Lord, here I am.

Joshua T Berglan
Use me use me.

jessica linn
It’s so cool. To hear a story like this that’s so devastating and God did everything to make it something really, really amazing. That can help so many more people. Thank you

Rachel Bruno
Thank you. And you know, on the practical legal standpoint, you know, on my website at Rachel brenda.com, I do have like five points what to do if CPS comes knocking at your door, so your viewers can go and download that document, it’s free. So you know, and be educated, you know, we have to know our rights as parents. That night at the hospital, I never should have spoken to them, you know, I really shouldn’t have spoken to them. I don’t care how nice they are to you. I don’t care what they say to you. You as an American citizen, as a parent, you have a right to remain silent, you know, the Fifth Amendment, or reason?

jessica linn
Nobody talks about that anymore.

Rachel Bruno
Yeah. And, you know, kindly Of course, you don’t want to be rude. You don’t want to make him mad. I know, and argue with them. But I should have told them, You know, I will be more than happy to speak with you in the presence of my attorney. Yeah,

Joshua T Berglan
wow. Rachel, I, you know, I don’t anything that we can do to help support your mission. You know, if you know, other people that are going through this, and we can help tell their stories, whatever I we just want to be of service. And of course, we’re going to promote and distribute this everywhere. And it’ll be on Google News. I mean, we were we we want these stories to get out. Because, again, this, you’ve taught us a bunch, like I said, we just were set in a virtual court, with CPS and everybody and I saw what you mean that deceptive smile, we want the best for everybody. And the whole time I’m going I’ve heard horror stories about you. And I’m just sitting here thinking to myself, Oh, boy. And this was a real eye opening experience. But I’m so happy that the way that you told the story, it was useful for us. And, and you know, and this is something that God what you’re doing is so important. So again, anything that we can do to support you, please let us know. So thankful for your courage, your fight, and what a blessing you are.

Rachel Bruno
Yes, thank you so much. You know, you’ve already done your part and exposing this and creating awareness. And I think that’s the number one thing right now is just create an awareness campaign because people really don’t know what happens. And if you want to get a deeper dive, here’s my book.

Joshua T Berglan
Is it upside down? Oh, no, it’s not just in reverse. Or the cover? It’s beautiful.

Rachel Bruno
Yeah. Well, that’s actually me the first time I got to hold them after surgery. Yeah, so this book will go into the deep dive of the faith journey that I went through, you know, the depositions, all the stuff are in there. It’s it’s very interesting.

Joshua T Berglan
Where can they buy it? Can they buy the book at Rachael bruno.com?

Rachel Bruno
They can, but it’ll just lead you to Amazon to the link on. Yeah. Cool. Cool.

Joshua T Berglan
Well, Rachel, God bless you. Thank you for the really servant warrior that you are, thank you for your faithfulness. Because this was an excellent reminder. It’s amazing how you can have church in the most unexpected ways sometimes. And this felt like church in the sense that this was an ultimate. This was a Bible story. This was faith in motion. This was complete surrender. And so many beautiful lessons to take from this even in such a dark and off story. Rachel, God bless you. Thank you for being here. Thank you. See you soon. I can breathe now.

jessica linn
That was horrible. No, she’s

Joshua T Berglan
not. No,

jessica linn
she’s amazing.

Joshua T Berglan
I would go, I would pay to watch her talk on stage because I think about the battles that we’ve gone through as a couple of the things that we face the issues that we’ve been a part of, and then our own stories independently. And, you know, we always I like to say that we live off we’ve been living off of faith, you know, and that’s how we operate. But that’s the most encouraging faith story I’ve ever heard in my life.

jessica linn
It really does a good job but showing how even the hardest or especially the hardest, the hardest things to go through will be used for good if you still believe

Joshua T Berglan
Yeah, I don’t do this enough. But please share this video. Even though we’re very grateful to have our network and the audience that all of you that have downloaded our app and watch on the variety of different methods thank you for that. But if you’re watching on social media, please share it tell people about it because her story wanted to just in spiring like you think what you’re going through is tough. That that’s the most I’ve heard a lot of wild stories. I mean, getting to do sermons and a Sunday night service with, you know, the, you know, the audience is mostly ex convicts and convicts, like you hear crazy stories and wild stories and but that one, just physically, I feel like it altered me somehow, like it just, that’s how God I love. This is why I can’t say it enough. It’s this faith. This is why I love the Lord, the way I do in my story is completely different than hers. But why I love the Lord so much and why I’ll talk about him anywhere. And what doesn’t matter to me, is because what he’s done for me, and then you hear stories like that, what he’s done for her, and there’s other people, there’s stories all over the world, of what God’s done for them. And if you’re struggling, if you’re hanging on, you think that God doesn’t have a plan for you. You don’t think God exists? You think God’s abandoned you? Or your your trials are too tough? And like, why is this happening to me? I pray that this opens your heart that God is there for you. Maybe it’s just he’s waiting for you to say I can’t do it without you. And maybe it’s that you don’t have a relationship with the Lord, if you don’t have a relationship with Yeshua, Jesus Christ. If you don’t have that relationship in your life, and you’re just you’re feeling all that she’s feeling. Or you feel hopeless, you don’t feel like God has anything for you. Maybe it’s time just to say God, take my life. It’s yours. I can’t do this on my own. I’ve been trying on my own not working. I’m not where I know that there’s more out there for me, why am I not getting it? God I surrender my life to your if you know that you’re hanging on to something that doesn’t belong to you. You know what could be in a bad relationship? I’ve been there. It could be drugs, it could be any type of addiction. I’ve had them all I know, I understand. And I know how hard it is to let go up for whatever reason, you’re like, you know, that thing is killing you. And you still hang on to it. I promise you there’s something so powerful about just saying, I surrender, Lord, I surrender. This, it can be all of the things it can be one of the things it Heck, if you surrender one thing today, you’re making room for God to put something else there. But the more you surrender, the more God replaces with what he wants there. And I’m telling you right now, that it, there is no way that I have the life that I have now. Without Jesus. No way, no way do I have the woman of my dreams. No, the family of my dreams. Like everything that I’ve lost, has been restored because of my relationship with the Lord and my utter reliance on him because I can’t do anything without him. Because I’ve screwed it all up. God wants has God’s plan for you is bigger than you can ever imagine. And those dreams and visions you have the images that you see have a better life. What if I told you that what God has for you is even better than that. You just got to trust him. You just got to surrender what you want for his. And I’m telling you he is the creator of your life. And what he can do with your life is so extraordinary. How is it possible in the last two and a half years where hell is just unleashed on Earth? And are now maybe the hell’s probably been here that hasn’t been here the whole time. But now it’s revealed and people are seeing it. And people are facing hardship like they’ve never done before. They’re losing their jobs. They’re losing. They’re losing all this stuff. How is it possible that in need this time, that I’m living the life that we are living the life of our dreams and doing what God’s called us to do? It’s because of our reliance on God, not man. Everything you see on your TV is man system. And if you just as you just heard, man system is corrupt, it’s evil. It’s messed up. A God will persevere. If you give your life to the Lord, you will persevere through it all. Yep.

It’s just a simple surrender. Do you have anything to say?

jessica linn
I know, I just am soaking it in. As a mom. It is. It’s the worst nightmare. So I you know, I’m grateful to her hear her story that it could happen to anyone. And if you trust in the Lord that you’re going to make it through it. So I I pray that the other parents moms that need to see this and hear the story, can see it and hear it

Joshua T Berglan
thank you for watching

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