Best-selling American author, TV actor in roles such as CHIPS and The Pander Heart, and Mel Brooks approved, Mr. James Bailey joins Joshua T Berglan for an inspiring interview and a lesson on why we should NEVER give up on our dreams.

James Bailey was born James Michael Bailey in Arkansas City, Kansas. In the early 1980s, he moved to Hollywood to pursue a career in acting. He got his start in 1981, appearing as “Billy” in the comedy film Back Roads, starring Sally Field and Tommy Lee Jones. The same year, he was seen playing the role of “Mervyn” in the baseball player Leroy “Satchel” Paige’s biopic Don’t Look Back: The Story of Leroy ‘Satchel’. The character of Satchel was portrayed by Louis Gossett Jr.

In 1981, he also appeared in minor roles in two episodes of John Patterson-directed hit television series CHiPs: episode “Crash Course” in January and episode “Concours d’Elegance” in December.

After appearing in a supporting role in A Gathering of Old Men (1987,) Bailey landed one of the key roles in Lou Antonio’s television drama film The Outside Woman (1989.)

Bailey was last seen on TV in 2001, portraying the character of “Mr. Peacock” in the TV drama The Ponder Heart, starring Peter MacNicol and JoBeth Williams but his dream to make it in Hollywood still burns on as he sells one book at a time to inevitably reach his life long goal of being a major actor.

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Joshua T Berglan, aka The World’s Mayor, is a voice for the voiceless and is driven to elevate the passion, purpose, and mission of those he serves. Joshua is the Chairman of the Live Mana Worldwide Foundation & Live Mana Network, Shock-Jock Evangelist, International #1 Best Selling Author for the Book “The Devil Inside Me“, a Producer, and Filmmaker. Joshua is an expert in the future of media and loves supporting others in helping make their dreams come true.

 

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Joshua T Berglan
What’s up everybody? My name is Joshua T Berglan. And you are watching a conversation with JoshBerglan on the live mana Network. Thank you so much for being here, I may get the camera thing a little confused, I moved my camera. So someday sometimes you might see me looking this way or this way. It’s because I’m trying to pretend looking at that camera right there. Anyway, we are constantly tinkering with stuff here. And if you followed my journey when we started with gratitude, unfiltered and you know, now doing a conversation with Josh, which he Berglund and all the different things that we create and broadcast, you’ll notice that the studio studio always looks different. You’ll notice that, you know, things are just never perfect. That’s by design. Well, not really, I would love for it to be perfect. But we are constantly tinkering with things because we want to make it perfect. We want it to look professional. And what you probably don’t know is that we like everything that we’ve we’ve been able to accomplish going from starting to show on a phone to now having our own network. We’ve done it by all the grace of God, we’ve done it with no money. We’ve done it with being thrifty, we’ve done it with being creative, you should see the amount of lights that are here. And it’s everything from construction lights to desk lights to spotlights and floodlights. Like we’re trying everything and it’s not going to be perfect right away. And it look if I had $100,000 to go write a check to say, Okay, I want everything to be perfect. Well, we do that. But we don’t have $100,000 yet to do that. So thank you, because we’ve gotten a lot of feedback. And people are making fun of our set and making fun of this and that. Well, I got news for you, at least we’re freaking trying. And I’m not sitting around waiting to go. When am I going to have the money? I’m gonna wait till I have the money to pursue my dreams. No Screw that. I’m gonna pursue my dreams every day of my life, because that’s what we’re here for. We’re here for that. And there’s no in my mind when I think of people that are pursuing their dreams. What do you think about when you think of somebody pursuing their dreams? What do you think about Hollywood, right? Yeah, Hollywood. I try to think of I think of it maybe it’s because I had the blessing of getting to go to LA actually, that’s not even true. I remember, when I was a kid, I was at my aunt uncle’s house. And they had this poster of one of my cousins is probably like a 15th cousin or something like that. Anyway, he was made it in Hollywood, I won’t say his name. But he made it he liked it was a big thing because he left Oklahoma, went to Hollywood going through his dreams. And then he got the big part. And that’s what a lot of people think of when they think of going for their dreams. But the truth is going through your dreams could be starting a media company could be starting a talk show that could be being a teacher, a psychotherapist, it’s different for everybody. But ultimately, you were here, and you were created to be able to not only go for your dreams, but to reach your dreams. But we can never do that. When we’re trying to be like everyone else. We got to stay true to ourselves. And I’m not going to lecture you on any of that. But I get really excited when I have the opportunity to meet anyone or have anyone on this broadcast from Hollywood. I lived there for several years. I love LA to me even though I’m blessed to live where I live in Prior Lake, Minnesota. LA is home for me. I found life there, I died there found life. LA is a special place. But one of the things that I’ve always loved about LA and Hollywood, or being around other people that are pursuing their dreams, there’s nothing more inspiring. So our guest today is not only just an accomplished writer, but he’s also been a pretty well known actor, too, has been in some really cool projects. But just a really neat guy and based off of what I’ve seen so far, got a really great personality. And I think you guys are going to be in I think you’re going to really, really enjoy today. So our guest is Mr. James Bailey. And we’ll get into the interview here shortly right after this work.

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what’s up everyone, we’re back. My name is Josh witchy Bergland and welcome to a conversation with Joshua T Berglund on the live mana network. And of course, you can scan this barcode here in the corner. And you can find links to our book to our movie. And also to the apps to Roku, Amazon Fire. Where else we have Roku finder apps, their watches their eye look way better on a big screen than I do your phone. So of course you could. Well my wife thinks I look good on the phone too. But that’s a whole other conversation. All right, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. James Bailey. So he’s got a new book called The Diary of a manic OCD bookseller. It came out in 2021. And that title alone tells me a lot about our next guest. I’m so honored to have Mr. Bailey here. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome James. How are you sir?

James Bailey
Unfortunately, the book title is self explanatory.

Joshua T Berglan
I so I read the book title. And then I saw the legend tweeted out, oh, my and I’m brain farting on his name. He tweeted, Mel Brooks, but 13 copies of your book.

James Bailey
My second book.

Joshua T Berglan
Okay, I have so many questions. But I want to do first things first, Mr. Bailey, what are you grateful for today? And why?

James Bailey
Well, I guess I’m alive at this age. That’s one play what you think of it like that? Yeah, I woke up this morning.

Joshua T Berglan
Well, you woke up this morning, and you’re doing stuff, which is that in itself was awesome. I mean, I It’s so cool. And you’ve been you worked in? You worked in Hollywood for years. And you but I but Mel Brooks, I want to ask you about that. Because to me, I think comedy. You know, he’s one of the great writers of all time, like how did you get to know Mel Brooks?

James Bailey
That’s a good story. And it’s actually in my book, by the way. Oh, what? What happened? I was an actor struggling actor in Hollywood, as you know, how it goes. And I was sneaking into studios all the time. This is before they had all these crazy stalkers, you know, it was easy to get in, you know. So what I would do, I would go to Fox and I would wait for the suits, you know, the guy corporate to go back from lunch and I would join them. And I would ask them the time was something so they security assumed I was with them. So I was going in there trying to meet direct you know, trying to help my career. I wasn’t didn’t mean any bad things or anything. So one day, I’m walking around, and I hear this voice from behind me or deep yelling voice. He goes, What the freak are you doing here? Are you insane? That’s from behind me. They go, Oh, Lord, why? Who’s behind me, you know, and I turn around this Mel Brooks. And he says, You’re here every freaking day got the same clothes on which is true. I had a $50 suit on hold from Hollywood Boulevard. That’s all I had. He said I noticed you and if I notice your security is going to notice you right? And I said no, I’m he’s he said what are you doing here? And I said, I’m trying to meet cast, you know, whatever. Producers trying to help my acting career. And he goes well, that’s not the way to do it. You know, your I don’t want you to get in trouble. You know, he’s been very nice to me. And after I he said, I want you to leave this Oh, Uh, what I did and of course, I waited till he laughed, and I wandered around trying to meet casting people. You know, I was relentless to, for lack of a better word. And the true story The very next day, I had an audition for Charlie’s Angels. So I had a legitimate pass at Fox, right? So I’m thinking Fox is a big studio. I’ll never see Mel, you know. So I’m walking studio legitimately. And guess who comes driving by and his Rolls Royce, Mel. And he’s just started shaking his head like, Oh, my God. So I run over to Mel, Mel, I gotta pass I’m gonna jet. He said, well tuck your frickin shirt in. Yeah. And that’s how we become friends. It’s really bizarre. But

Joshua T Berglan
it, you know, in that’s how I, my experience living in LA, and how I became friends with certain people. And I’m not a Name Dropper at all. But it was something crazy, just like that. Just being myself. Not trying to fit in not trying to be anything else, but me. And it that that’s how like, the Hollywood stars are people too. And I know, there’s some extra levels and all of that. But really, ultimately, there are people and this is their craft, just like there’s brilliant people in oil and gas and business and finance. Well, Hollywood has all of that stuff. And that is truly their job. And that’s their art, and what they’ve worked their butt off for. But maybe it’s because they’re on the screen that they’re idolized. But the truth is, they really are people too. And I’ve been blown away with that. No, I’ve only encountered a few that were disappointing. Where there was the ego and you know, don’t look at me don’t even Yeah, right. I mean or whatever, if any of that. So, okay, so a struggling actor. And the fact is, you’re in chips, which that’s you’re not struggling too bad if you make it into chips. And what’s the other one was the Panther heart? Was it

James Bailey
the pawn to heart? Yeah, that was the last role I had. Yeah. Yeah, well, that’s true. But I never got to the point where you I’m walking down the street, and they go, oh, there’s that guy. And so and so you know, you know what I mean? That’s what I was taught to do, though. Yes, but that was my goal. So yeah. I’m sorry.

Joshua T Berglan
No, no, it’s okay. i So because of that, this is actually a great segue. I’m glad that you said it that way. Because your goal was to be recognized or to make it where, you know, acting was legitimately a career. You were known. You’re on the Walk of Fame, you’re doing all that stuff. And you fell short, even though in a lot of people’s eyes, you were successful. How did you deal and cope with rejection? Because that is one of the toughest things. You’re rejected more than you’re ever recovered? In Hollywood? Yeah, you

James Bailey
got that? Right. And it’s funny you say that since I made my book a best seller my my first book, I met Adam Sandler, I almost did the movie was optioned for a movie. But my thinking is to motivate your listeners. I was living in my car. And I was relentless. I would go to a bookstore and would meet one or two people. And oh, you’re an author, nice to meet, you never met an author. And I would say, Well, if you buy it, autograph it for you. So they would buy the book two or three books, I get on the bus, go to another bookstore. I just wouldn’t stop. You know, I was relentless. I want my dreams come true. That was my thinking, you know, you can’t stop me. That was my logic, you know.

Joshua T Berglan
And that’s what it takes to and the other thing, I think that is important for people to know. I mean, especially if you’re pursuing acting, and the industry is way different now than it was back then. It’s it’s different than it’s different than it was five years ago. Yeah. I mean, COVID, changed things streaming. The the streaming platforms, the fact that you don’t need to be in Hollywood anymore to make a movie. It’s just a completely different industry. But the fact is, when you’re going for your dreams, you’re gonna deal with obviously rejection. But you can’t give up on that. What was the like? Because I know that there’s time. Oh, I know what I was saying. You can’t. The thing that you that I had to realize for all the rejections I had, is that you can’t take it personal because all it was is I didn’t fit the vision. It wasn’t that I wasn’t good enough. It wasn’t that I wasn’t a good human or didn’t work hard. It didn’t try hard, didn’t know my lines. It’s none of that. It’s it’s about the vision. There’s casting directors for a reason. They have a vision. They’re looking for a specific thing, because they’re painting this picture with their art. Is that how you looked at it when you were rejected? Or did you take it personal and what a center car On fire.

James Bailey
Well, that’s a good segue to, you know, the Charlie’s Angels audition. I was telling you about Mel. I went in there, and I just, everybody loved me the director that everybody said, Oh, Jim, you’re the you. You knocked us out. Right. So I thought I got this part. You know, I was, you know, on top CLOUD NINE and walking around there, too. Yeah, a couple days, the phone doesn’t ring, you know, they don’t tell you when you don’t get so, so just by chance, I had an audition at that same they had a trailer out front of Fox, and they had different shows, the casting directors are all these different, you know, had their own portable thing, you know. So anyway, I, I walked by Charlie’s Angels, and I had to know why I didn’t get that part. So they had I pretended to get water, walked in their office and got water. And she said, the lady of the costume. It’s your gym. I’m so sorry. You were the best actor, but they decided they want a fat guy. And you’re too thin. Yeah.

Joshua T Berglan
So some donuts Dude, come on. Give me a give me a week.

James Bailey
Yeah, but I really snapped after that, you know, I very thin skinned and like you said, you can’t take a personal but I did you know. So I got my car. And I just took off and drove towards Florida. I was just too, you know, too devastated for lack of a better word. Oh, wow. So I started talking to Mel and he said, Well, Jim, if you write or James, if you write screenplays, and you have some power, or books, you know, you don’t Yeah, you don’t you can’t sell. I won’t sell them unless they put me in the movie. So that was my logic for writing. It was acting was the end goal. Does that make good sense?

Joshua T Berglan
No, it makes perfect sense that it was it’s very, very similar for me, like, I didn’t really care so much about being an actor. I love producing. Okay, as much as I love, you know, being a talk show host and all that I do I love it. I but it’s more of my, the fact that I’m getting to live a childhood dream, and actually exceeded a childhood dream is a miracle and a blessing. But when it came to the entertainment business, for me, I it’s producing, I love producing, I enjoy it, I love helping make other people’s dreams come true. I love you know, finding what’s needed. I love you know, every aspect of it. I enjoy that I love the creative process. So, but for me, I didn’t take the writing route. I didn’t take the perusing around, I didn’t know any of those avenues. I actually came in the industry through product placement, from having products. So I learned all that side of the business before I got into any of the acting. I mean, it was because of having products that I got to produce my first movie that I got to act in my first movies and commercials. It all came from that. But the fact is that you don’t have to take the same path to get where you want to go sometimes. Have you ever heard of the third door philosophy?

James Bailey
Well, here’s my quick philosophy. Some of us have to go a long way out of our way to get where we’re going is many thinking, yeah. And that’s okay, though. Yeah, well, yeah, well, matter of fact, H O has one of my scripts right now. And so does anonymous content. And they also have my book, because Simon and Schuster said, I should get it to Netflix. So I got a lot of things going on. But I will not sell it unless I get a good role in any of that stuff. So I’m only writing as an actor now.

Joshua T Berglan
You know, but you’re right, you took the power. And that’s you put your you position yourself in a powerful position where you get the call of shots. That’s very similar to what my wife and I are doing with our approach for what we’re going to do. I thought this is inspiring for me. Like I really, really am encouraged by this. So thank you for that. Weren’t you born in a really small town in Kansas?

James Bailey
That’s right. Yeah. All right, Kansas. It’s felt like Arkansas city, but it’s art Kansas City, Kansas. Yeah.

Joshua T Berglan
Okay, so I was born in Oklahoma City. And even though I call I mean, LA is home to me. I was born in Oklahoma City. So you know, Kansas being a neighbor. I’ve been there a bunch. So can you tell us how you got from our Kansas City? Well, wait, did I say that right or Kansas?

James Bailey
That you said it right. Our Kansas City Art City is a slang term or short term,

Joshua T Berglan
art city we’ll go with how did you get from art city out to Hollywood?

James Bailey
Oh my god. That would take me about 100 books to write. Well, actually what happened? My mother’s from Moorhead, Minnesota. And my dad was Morehead which is across the bridge from Fargo, North Dakota, you might come to Minnesota here And so anyway, as a kid, my folks got divorced. And I was going back and forth on the bus from Kansas to Minnesota. So I was already thinking, I guess I was already I had my first anxiety deck when I was five. So I was already a tortured soul. So I guess that played out in my future because I couldn’t I started drinking a lot, you know, and I started just drifting around. As I got older, I couldn’t find my niche in life, you know. And that was very immature. And finally, when it’s about 27, I actually got run out of a town in Colorado of Vail, Colorado. I was getting drunk and getting thrown out every bar in town. And this is actually true story. The sheriff of Vail said, Mr. Bailey, we want you out of town by five o’clock. Now, it seems bizarre, but yeah, like a Westerner. I finally said, you know, I gotta get some going. And I started thinking about acting, I thought, well, you know, I’m unstable. And all the above. Maybe he’s good from it. So I went to Hollywood joined an acting school. So that’s how I kind of went along. Yeah, a long way around. Yeah.

Joshua T Berglan
You know, there’s that’s that that sounds about right. Because it seems like everyone has a similar story. It actually makes me wonder if you hung out with my dad at all. Because my dad got thrown out of a plenty of towns. He was in a band. Oh, Torian. I contain a Jerry Lee Lewis band from Seattle. Oh, you got Danny’s got? Oh, that’s where I get it from clearly because my mom is like the patron saint of awesome. And just you know, I mean, she’s a good woman, not rebellious. None of that stuff. Not a troublemaker, at least the kind that gets you thrown in jail. But I got my dad’s DNA clearly.

James Bailey
I’m so tell I’m drinking now. So that’s in the past, you know? Well, that’s

Joshua T Berglan
good. I was about to say, I was gonna ask you that. Because you have so much energy and like you’re you have a bright light. And I just didn’t think that you could possibly have that kind of light still drinking that way. So I’m glad to see that. So tell us about the OCD book. And forgive me for not having the title perfectly memorized. But this is one of the coolest title the book I’ve ever heard in my life. What’s it about?

James Bailey
Well, it’s kind of how are, you know, I’m not on thin skin. Now a lot of people would think that meet me, oh, man, you got to be thick skinned because I’ll walk up to anybody on the beach or anywhere and give them a card for my book, I can’t stop. Even though I walk up to somebody, and I hope I motivate some of your audience who want to be salesmen or pursue their dreams. I walk up to somebody it looks rich, and they don’t want to be bothered by me. And I tell myself, who cares about those people? I mean, yeah, you got to do what you got to do. So I’ll go up there and give him a card. Tell him about my book. And if they’re rude, so what if I just keep going? You got it, no matter how you make a fool of yourself. So what? You got to think of the big picture, the end game, you know, you got to do whatever you got to do to get to the top of the mount Mount Everest, you know. So that’s basically what I do. I can’t stop I’ve given out guards. Really helps me in that way.

Joshua T Berglan
Oh, not so your book is literally about that.

James Bailey
Well, it’s about one day I’m talking to pierce Bronson. You know that movie star and he buys my book. We’re having a nice chat. Next day, I’m living on a meet the bearded lesbian because I’m living on the streets. So then I’m getting chased by a crazy homeless guy. So I kind of go up and down. How I got the movie option. Lit all during this period. I’m living in my car. It’s pretty bizarre. I really,

Joshua T Berglan
that sounds like an awesome TV show. But that’s real life. Yeah, unfortunately, I

James Bailey
wasn’t so crazy.

Joshua T Berglan
That’s the those are the best kinds of stories like I honestly, I think people could just tell stories make movies about their childhood, or their upbringing or their journey. Like all those true stories. I don’t understand why true stories need to be Hollywood added up which is a word I just made up. But I don’t understand it because real life is way stranger than fiction. They there but this I have to I have to get your book because

James Bailey
I’m not my friend forever.

Joshua T Berglan
Look, I think that is i

James Bailey
that is like we’re trapped. All of us are trapped in a job. We’re trying to get out you know.

Joshua T Berglan
I escaped the matrix. So I thank God for that but But I know what you mean. Yeah. So what I say to you, is kind of reminds me of the Dave Thomas story, which I don’t know how much of it’s fictionalized or not. But Dave Thomas, and I’m not trying to call you old or anything, so please don’t take one. But he never gave up on his dream. And it was like 70 something or whatever the age was, before he finally made it. And like, I love this. I mean, it reminds me of Noah, it reminds me of other characters of the Bible, that just, they’re waiting for the payoff. They get the vision, they have the dream, and they don’t give up on it until they get there. Let me ask you this, though. How, like with not achieving the actual dream that you have yet? How have you kept yourselves? Like, how have you rewarded yourself? Like, how have you been able to identify the little milestones along the way that make you go, I’m on the right path. And so I’m not giving up because there’s a lot of people that hate the journey, and they give up on it because they never think they’re gonna get there. So what’s kept you going?

James Bailey
Well, I talking to somebody like you and who buys my book. That’s why I named them subtitle one book at a time. That keeps me going one book, I just felt like I accomplish. I don’t make any sense to you, but it just gives me a drive to keep going. You know, that one more book. That’s closer to a movie, you know, more books, more? Movie. That’s my blog. Why don’t I get tired or something?

Joshua T Berglan
Me and you’re waiting to hang out. I gotta meet you. Where do you live?

James Bailey
Well, right now. I’m heading to LA in about a week, but I’m in Louisiana as we speak. Oh, poor Louisiana. Ah, Lake Charles. You ever heard of it? So? No.

Joshua T Berglan
Yeah, I gotta go Lake Charles story for him. I’ve been I forget what I was gonna say. But it doesn’t matter. The Lake Charles. I went, there’s a family called the prince family. They’re a bull riding family. Okay. And when I was in college, one of my friends was dating one of the bowriders. And so we went to Lake Charles, Louisiana. Where Matt nice status, right? Yeah. Sulphur, sulphur. Louisiana. Yeah. Yeah, I spent I spent a summer there. And I cucumbers and tomatoes and vinegar was like, I learned how to like that there. But one of the things we went to a club, and I’ll never forget it about this town. Because everywhere you drive, there’s drive thru daiquiri stores, which is kind of crazy. Waves at you when you drive down the road. And then the other thing that I’ll never forget was going to this club, and we walked in there playing country music, so everybody’s lined dance and doing their thing. And then all of a sudden, and then of course, there’s African Americans there too, just hanging out. They weren’t dancing to the country, really. The DJ turns on hip hop. Next thing I know, everybody’s on the dance floor hanging out. I’ve never seen anything like it. We’re just everybody just got along. Everyone’s in community with each other didn’t really matter if you were black or white. Like that was my impression of that town. It was just a very friendly, loving place that was humid and had bugs the size of my head. Is that still true there?

James Bailey
Yeah. There’s not a lot of things to do. Mostly, I do most of my writing here. Okay, because it’s not a real it’s not LA is always something to happen. You know what I mean? It’s,

Joshua T Berglan
it’s almost like I miss it. I find myself with this all the time. Because right now I’m surrounded like, literally what I’m looking at is a nature preserve on this without this window. It’s her backyard, how we landed this house, I have no idea. But it’s a nature preserve. So we’ve got birds, all kinds of animals just everywhere. And I love it. It’s so beautiful and so peaceful. But there was nothing to do here in comparison to LA where LA is like, every night of the week, all day

James Bailey
long. Every day. Yeah, you are walking in a grocery store and start up a conversation. Yeah,

Joshua T Berglan
so. But I’m also learning to appreciate the quiet because like you said, Ken, right. And I want to go back to something to when you were saying one book at a time for my journey, because I have every goal I have a dream I have seems impossible. But I keep getting these little reminders that I’m on the right path. And I feel like and I believe that when we are pursuing it, whether it’s one book at a time, or one email from some stranger saying, Hey, I’ve watched the show, I found it here and I really appreciate what you’re doing or whatever it may be like I I love those little reminders, because what I’ve learned to appreciate is the little reminders are almost as good if not better than actually accomplishing the goal. Because as soon as you accomplish the goal, it’s like, Oh, crap, what’s next? I’m still alive. For you?

James Bailey
Well, you know, a psychiatrist told me 100 years ago, he said, James, everybody has to have a purpose to get up every morning, or you cease to exist. And he was talking about mentally and physically. So I always remind myself, you know, you got to get moving. You got to get going. You got to you accomplish something. Yeah. be productive. So yeah, even though even though you don’t feel like it, like I do a 500 pushups every day and run. Because I have a lot of anxiety and gets rid of it. So if I say I’m tired, I don’t want to do that today. I make myself do it. You always have to make use on after you do it. There’s that gratification. You know, man, I feel so I didn’t want to do it. And I did it. And good, man. Good, man. Keep it going. You know, that kind of? Yeah. Boost yourself up a little bit. You know,

Joshua T Berglan
I admire that. I love that. It’s all in the book. Are you going out to LA for next week? Do you have meetings for your movie?

James Bailey
Well, what I do basically, I go to Malibu and you know where everybody most of the movie people and I, if I see somebody look like they like to read or why Malibu they’re so rich. You know, buying, buying a book that was like buying a Snickers? Yeah. So I promote my book. And a lot of times, I’ll see somebody writing. And there’s all your fellow writer and actor. And so I do a lot of networking out there.

Joshua T Berglan
Yeah. That is the ultimate place to do it. Especially when you’re in this business. And what

James Bailey
I do is people most people think I live in Malibu. But yeah, whenever the bus comes to make sure nobody’s looking. And I run to get on the bus. Send my book.

Joshua T Berglan
To see that. But even that is inspiring to me. Because, look, I’m preaching to the choir here talking to you. But again, as someone that is going for their dreams, I don’t have time to worry about not having the money I need to do this or that or to get our movie made. We we made a movie was about it’s my story. It’s called the Devil Inside we check it out. Yeah, we didn’t. We didn’t have any money. But we were able to make it a best seller internationally. We didn’t have any money, but we made a movie with people. And hoping to take that money, we’re not hoping we are doing it. Pitching. The B roll movie is the concept for what we want to create the franchise that we want to create. And it sounds crazy. And it wasn’t perfect. And yeah, I could point out all the errors in the world. But to me, I believe whether you look at it as God or the universe, or whatever it may be, I believe that if you’re taking those steps in faith, they will pay off and they will be rewarded. And while you can sit around and wait all day long, until everything’s perfect, guess what, it’s never going to be perfect. There’s never going to be enough money. There’s never going to be enough of whatever if you’re one of those people that are sitting in waiting. But again, take the action, good things are going to come to

James Bailey
you. Yes, just don’t if you’re trying to get something going a movie, whatever it is your business. Don’t be afraid to put yourself out there make a fool of yourself. You know, who cares? You know, you got bigger things in life. I’ll give you a good Mel Brooks story. So anyway, I’m in the bookstore, Barnes and Noble in LA and I’m trying to get some woman to buy my book, like, I’m usually and not from me, but in the store, they would buy it from the store, you know. So this woman, I only talked to her for about a minute and I could tell she wasn’t interested, you know, so I move on to the next person. And whatever reason I looked at the Internet that night, and she, you know, wasn’t Twitter was something similar like that. Oh, I met the author James Bailey and blah, blah, you know, saying negative things about me, you know, it’s like, wow, just met the woman for me. So anyway, I was feeling really bad because people can write anything about you on the internet these days, you know? So I was feeling sad. And I called Mel up and I said, Man, Mel, I’m sick to my stomach. He goes Weiss. Well, I met this guy, and I was trying to get her to buy my book. And she just that trashed me on the internet. And he goes, Did you mention your name? I go, yeah. Did you mention your book? And I go, Yeah, well, that’s great. Congratulations. And he said, Are you going to quit plugging your book because of her? I said, No. He said, Well shut up then and get back to work. So yes, so that’s what you got to do. You can’t worry about somebody The person maybe you had a fight with their boyfriend before they met you, you know, you can’t you gotta keep moving. Yeah. I learned from that.

Joshua T Berglan
This is why this is why God says that wisdom is the ultimate treasure. I don’t think he actually said that verbatim. But I, whatever. It’s the same thing. Because wisdom, like I mean, what you’re saying right now is going to impact and is impacting so many people because we all I think we all don’t we, I mean, as a whole crave something more, or know that we’re meant for something more, at least I pray that you believe that. But I this is this is so inspiring to me. And you’re right to about the negative press the way that SEO works and technology works. Trust me if somebody any, you if somebody’s saying your name and saying your work, and they’re bashing it, they’re doing you a favor.

James Bailey
Yeah, no. Even on thin skin is still hard. Like, well, I’ll give you a good example, my first book. Well, actually, this is a good motivational story for you or anybody. I was walking around Malibu and my first book man interrupted, and I met this British woman and she said, Well, I said, Do you like to read? They have a bookstore, you know, over here. She said, Well, I like to read, but you should meet my son in law. And I go, who’s your son in law? She said, Well, he just directed a movie at Tribeca Film Festival. Yeah, I’d like to meet you. So she called him up, he came nice looking guy. He bought my book. And he called me the next day at one option and for a movie. So I did that on my own. So if I could do it, anybody could do these things. You know, not necessarily the movie business, but you know, anything, startup, whatever you’re up to,

Joshua T Berglan
you know, Batman, this is so cool. Will you please tell the audience how they can support you how they can buy your books. And we create a media kit that we publish, and we’ll put it out. We’ll have links to all your books and everything. But why don’t you tell everybody who’s watching right now where they can find you and support you.

James Bailey
My last this is my third book, my favorite book, The Diary of a manic OCD bookseller by James Bailey. And it’s only $10.32. I tried to make it as cheap as I could, so I could get people to read or if you’re broke like me, which 99 cents on Kindle, but I’m more of a book person. You know. I like to touch the book. Yeah. Yeah. Like yeah, like a piece of March or something.

Joshua T Berglan
Are you on social media or anything

James Bailey
about Facebook? It may have meld together on its studio sets a good picture of me and no.

Joshua T Berglan
If I wasn’t banned from Facebook, I would add you as a friend but you’re banned from

James Bailey
that banning crap, I don’t go for that.

Joshua T Berglan
You know, it’s amazing. I want to live in a world like listen, I don’t like racism, and I don’t like discrimination. I don’t like homophobia. I don’t like any of that stuff. can’t stand it. But you know what, I’d rather be able to see it, then have it hidden. If somebody’s in a hole, I would rather know front their navel and not have to worry about that, you know, like to question. And the fact is, when you make everything go underground, nothing grew up. Nothing good grows in the dark. So just let it out. Let it out. You may get your feelings hurt, but it’s a lot better than, you know, having somebody that’s in the closet hating your guts. Just my opinion anyway.

James Bailey
No, you’re right. You’re 100%. Right. Like Mel Brooks told me he couldn’t do the movies he did back then. Because,

Joshua T Berglan
ya know, yeah. Correct. Crap, you know, and that’s like, you know, that generation of the of comedy and mind you it was a completely different time. And yeah, there was they had their issues back then too. But, you know, that kind of comedy just can’t be done now, which is kind of a shame, because we’re all really worthy of being made fun of, like, we all do things that are worthy of being joked at, we all do it. And it’s just easier when we laugh at ourselves and laugh at our own ignorance or whatever it may be. But, you know, comedy, the problem with comedy now is, there’s no truth in it. And when there’s no truth even, you know, there’s gotta be some truth and comedy for to really be funny. Now, it’s just opinions. I might as well watch Fox News and God knows I don’t want to do that.

James Bailey
Well, I watch that and I take half of it is half half I take you know, calm most of the common sense kind of guy. I tried to filter everything out and figure out what’s what’s the truth.

Joshua T Berglan
And it’s, it’s tougher now to do that than ever. But nonetheless, I I’m so grateful for your time, Mr. Bailey, I rooting for you and I am going to buy your book. Because

James Bailey
Oh, happy with your movie or anything. Let me know.

Joshua T Berglan
Oh, yeah, of course. But we’ll have that conversation off air. And again, I’m going to buy your book today. I encourage the audience and it This, again, just talking to you means a lot to me, because I know how hard it is what you’re trying to do. And and I just have a ton of respect for it. And and I just thank you for being here because it’s been so encouraging to me. And so yeah, I’m a fan Mr. Bailey and thank you for being here.

James Bailey
Thank you. Hi,

Joshua T Berglan
sir, talk to you soon. Bye bye, man. I was wanting to cry

like you don’t get a cookie, for going for your dreams. What you get is backlash and hate and confusion because people don’t understand what you’re trying to do. Get called crazy, psycho, delusional. You need help.

But the one thing that I hold in my heart to be true is that it’s the crazy ones that change the world. The ones that are crazy enough to believe that they can change the world the ones they’re crazy enough to believe that they are worthy of accomplishing the dreams and visions inside their head. Even though I boldly talked about a lot of what we’re doing and what we want to do, and there’s if I told everything that we were trying to do you definitely would think I need to be locked up and committed. But I admire people like that because what he’s trying to do is really tough. So I enjoyed that. That was great. Thank you so much for being here. New show that we have that I’m doing hosting a solo show because I like to hear myself talk no just kidding. Well maybe there’s some truth in that. But I I am also known as a shock jock evangelists because I love the Lord and and I have my own way of sharing my love for the Lord. And so I’ll give you guys a sneak peek. Actually it’s a really sneak peek just video to close this out. But I’m really excited it’s called spoken word with Joshua T Berlin. And it’s a little bit different type of ministry but as part of our church redefined channel, on the lip mana network, and with one episode up, do another one this week, and I appreciate you but that message is some discernment. It’s worth checking out. So thank you for being here. And we’ll see you next time.

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